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Gun sales sky rocket due to fear of possible Obama second term

The irony of the anti-gun Obama being behind the extraordinary sales of guns and ammunition is delicious.


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OK, I admit, I bought into the MILLIONS of Rounds of Ammunition bought by the FED's as to be something nefarious, but it seems that there is a logical explanation for all of that ammnition being gotten by the various Agencies:

Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Buy Ammunition

Posted on August 17, 2012

(This is written or spoken to the writer by the NRA/ILA representative of the lobbyists in the Capital for the NRA.  His name wasn't posted in the article, Claudia)

You may recently have seen some in the Internet rumor mill feverishly repeating the obvious truth above, in an effort to stir up fear about recent acquisitions of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and a number of smaller agencies. The mildest writers have questioned why seemingly mundane agencies would need ammunition at all; more incendiary authors suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people.

Much of the concern stems from a lack of understanding of the law enforcement functions carried about by officers in small federal agencies. These agents have the power to make arrests and execute warrants, just like their better-known counterparts at agencies like the FBI.

For instance, the Social Security Administration solicited offers for 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition. But the agency has 295 special agents who combat Social Security fraud that costs tax payers billions each year, so the order works out to roughly 590 rounds of ammunition per agent for training, mandatory quarterly qualification shooting and duty use. More than a few NRA members would use that much ammunition in a weekend shooting class or plinking session.

Another recent rumor questioned a request for 46,000 rounds of.40-caliber ammo by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA inadvertently fueled that speculation through a clerical error that suggested the ammunition was destined for the National Weather Service. NOAA later clarified that the ammunition was actually for the little known Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, which enforces laws against illegal fishing and marine life importation. The ammunition is for 63 personnel, amounting to about 730 rounds per officer.

The most widespread of the recent rumors involves a Department of Homeland Security contract for a maximum of 450 million rounds of .40-caliber jacketed hollow-points, to be supplied over the next five years.

After receiving numerous questions from his constituents regarding the contract, pro-Second Amendment U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) and his staff set out in search of the truth. In a press release, Rep. Westmoreland's office explains:

If you take the number of agencies that will be using this ammunition – CBP, Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), ICE, the U.S. Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration, the DHS police force, and all the guards that protect the various buildings these agencies are housed in, and spread that out over 5 years, you start to see that 450 million rounds really isn't that large of an order. Especially considering it is used for training purposes like firing range and live fire exercises, on-the-job use (though that is very limited), and to shore up their supplies. In fact, there are 65,000 – 70,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS who would be covered under this … ammunition contract. If DHS were to purchase all 450 million rounds over 5 years, then that would equate to only about 1,384 rounds of ammo per year per law enforcement [officer] … assuming the lower estimate of only 65,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS. Considering those agents go through training exercises several times per year, that is not a lot of ammunition.

Perhaps most strangely, some have cited the purchase of hollow-point ammunition as evidence of the federal government's evil motives. Hollow-points are the defensive ammunition of choice for federal, state and local law enforcement officers across the country, just as they are for private citizens. These attacks are eerily similar to statements made by gun prohibitionists, who spent the much of the '70s, '80s and '90s complaining about "dum dum" bullets. (In fact, the Violence Policy Center's website still exhibits a publication lamenting that federal ammunition law "has no effect on today's generation of high-tech hollow-point ammunition.") The attacks also ignore the fact that federal agents, unlike average taxpayers on more limited budgets, normally train and qualify with their duty ammunition.

As most gun owners will agree, skepticism of government is healthy. But today, there are more than enough actual threats to the Second Amendment to keep gun owners busy. With two key Supreme Court decisions hanging by a one-vote margin, the Justice Department deeply involved in a cover-up of a disastrous Mexican gun smuggling operation, and President Obama touting a ban on popular semi-automatic firearms, there is no need to invent additional threats to our rights.

My problem with the whole report is that NO ONE reasonably covered why it is that they  (the agencies) need to PRACTICE with Hollow Point shells..........Hollow Points don't weight that much more or less than practive or regular shells, don't have that much a different feel when in the barrel or being shot out of the gun so as to change the aim or effeciency of the shot, sooooo, why Hollow Points?  Just my thoughts about actually having shot both types of shells.

This story originated in Alex Jones InfoWars blog. Alex Jones is an hysterical conspiracy nut -- the reason why Jones is one of the four banned sources here and why I have made no reference to it.

The other three banned sosurces are Insane Wayne Madsen, Rev. Manning and African Press International (API).

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At pistol ranges there is no measurable difference in hollow point trajectory than "ball"(military Full Metal Jacket) or lead semi-wadcutters. Using expensive controlled expansion HP ammo for practice is simply wasteful.

Hollow Point ammo is prohibited by the Geneva Convention for use in combat.

Hollow Point ammo will not penetrate body armor. It was originally designed to make quickly fatal wounds in soft-skinned game animals. Real criminals regularly use body armor, but normal citizens don't (yet).  I suspect a 'Tactician' in the hierarchy has decided that HP is better because its wounds are usually fatal (exsanguation - bleeding out), but not effective against body armor if captured by the 'Enemy'- unarmored civilians.

But, perhaps it is my own evil blood-mindedness. But the bottom line is their excuses are irrational.
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2nd Amendment - Right to Bear Arms especially in California where unemployment is at an all time high, illegals run rampant, etc...
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GOP set to OK most pro-gun platform ever

The Washington Examiner is reporting that delegates to the Republican National Convention on Tuesday will approve the most pro-gun platform ever, staking out support for national concealed carry reciprocity and opposing domestic restrictions on ammunition and United Nations interference in gun sales.

"It's probably the most supportive and detailed on Second Amendment issues ever," said a gun-rights advocate who attended the GOP platform committee meetings last week.
 
Besides giving the National Rifle Association and other Second Amendment groups victories on their issues, the platform is also a slap at several Obama initiatives, including the Fast & Furious scandal, his administration's consideration of a ban on high-capacity bullet magazines and talk of reviving the assault weapons ban and negotiations in the United Nations over a treaty to regulate small arms sales.
 
Leading the changes from prior GOP platforms was a sentence backing the use of deadly force for self-defense. The added sentence reads: "We acknowledge, support and defend law-abiding citizens' God-given right of self-defense."
 
Also added was language opposing restrictions on ammo purchases and supporting the right of those with state-issued concealed carry permits to cross state lines.
 
In the section calling on Americans to handle guns safely, the GOP platform adds: "this also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration. We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a law-abiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents."
 
The GOP took advantage in their platform to slap Attorney General Eric Holder and his refusal to dish out more documents on the Fast & Furious gun scandal on the border with Mexico which prompted the U.S. House to rebuke him.
 
In that section of the platform, delegates added, "We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as 'Fast and Furious,' conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the administration's attorney general in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle. We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority."
 
And the post-Batman shooting in Colorado, which has prompted a renewed interest in gun control and reviving the Clinton-era assault weapons ban, played a role in strengthening the GOP's opposition to a gun ban. The language added reads, "We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines, or otherwise revising the ill-considered Clinton gun ban."


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Obama's Democratic platform calls for more restrictions on gun owners' rights

The NRA -ILA is reporting that one thing was made crystal clear at the Democratic National Convention, held this week in Charlotte, N.C. The 2012 National Democratic Platform is Barack Obama's platform. There is nothing in the document that doesn't reflect Obama's position.

While the opening lines give lip service to supporting the Second Amendment, the rest of the plank calls for renewing the semi-auto ban and for regulating gun shows into oblivion.

Here's the language:

Firearms.

We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans' Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements--like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole--so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.

As if to signal that the Democratic Party is ready to follow Obama's lead on the issue, Senator Dianne Feinstein announced in her keynote speech to the convention's California delegation that she intends to reintroduce an "updated" version of the 1994-2004 "assault weapons" and "large" magazines. (For more coverage of Feinstein's plans, please see related story.)

The platform is silent on other key issues such as the "Fast & Furious" scandal, Right to Carry and the right to self-defense. All of this is a stark contrast to the detailed pro-gun language of the Republican platform, and sends a clear signal that if reelected, Barack Obama will pursue new restrictions on gun owners' rights. His willingness to take unilateral executive actions without approval by Congress--such as the long gun registration scheme his Justice Department has imposed in the southwest border states--coupled with his anti-Second Amendment Supreme Court nominees, should remind gun owners of the dangers a second term would pose if Obama is reelected and never has to face voters again.


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Profiles in cowardice: the 2012 Obama platform

Chris Cox says Barack Obama is running from a crime scene.
 
Rather than acknowledge the deadly truth about how the anti-gun policies he promoted as a state senator have utterly failed the good people of Chicago, Obama is hoping that a not-so-subtle change in the Democratic Party platform will sweep it all under the rug.
 
Recall back in 2008, Democrats attempted to downplay then-candidate Barack Obama's hostility toward gun owners and our Second Amendment freedoms by putting this line in their party's platform (emphasis added):

We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation, but we know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne.

In this year's platform, however, Team Obama has shortened this passage to read:

We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation.

Gone is any mention of Chicago. That's because life in the criminal utopia that Obama helped build there is not pretty.
 
When he was a candidate and lawmaker from Southside Chicago, Barack Obama endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.
 
He also voted to ban most commonly owned rifles and shotguns, and even voted against legal protections for people who used firearms to defend themselves or their families from deadly attacks.

Despite a 2010 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that declared Chicago's gun ban unconstitutional, the city's stifling restrictions on gun ownership make it nearly impossible for law-abiding citizens to use a firearm for self-defense.
 
So far this year, 369 people have been murdered in Chicago despite the city's draconian gun control laws. That's roughly a 30 percent increase from this same time last year.
 
In fact, Chicago is on pace for a record 490 homicides in 2012, which would not only make it the deadliest big city in the United States, but also as deadly as notoriously crime-ridden Bogota, Colombia.
 
Things are so far out of control in Chicago that the city's mayor, former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, has resorted to calling in the FBI for help.
 
Obama's anti-gun policies have left good, law-abiding people defenseless in the face of Chicago's crime wave. The average police response time in Chicago is nearly four minutes. That's an eternity for a disarmed, single mother trapped in fear behind a bedroom door. Or an elderly person, whose only means of reasonable self-defense is a firearm.
 
Yet in spite of this, Barack Obama is still calling for stricter gun control laws and a national ban on semi-automatic firearms in his 2012 party platform. None of which would prevent criminals from obtaining guns. All of which would disarm law-abiding Americans.
 
Obama's 2012 party platform makes it clear that if he wins re-election, he will work to bring the same, dangerous anti-gun policies that are destroying Chicago to cities and towns nationwide.
 
For that reason, November's election presents a clear choice between our Second Amendment freedoms and fundamental right to self-defense … and the murder and mayhem that Barack Obama helped bring to Chicago, but now wants us all to ignore.


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Smith & Wesson posts insane earnings -- revenues skyrocket

Becket Adams is reporting that the past couple of years have been alright for famed gun manufacturer Smith & Wesson but 2012 has been exceptionally kind.
 
"Gross profit for the first quarter was $51.3 million, or 37.7% of net sales, compared with gross profit of $26.5 million, or 28.9% of net sales, for the comparable quarter last year [emphasis added]," the company said in its press release.
 
And it doesn’t end there.
 
"The company earned 27 cents vs. expectations of 18 cents," Business Insider’s Joe Weisenthal writes. "Revenue was $136 million vs. estimates of just over $128.7 million."
 
The company also expects earnings of 19 to 21 cents in the next quarter, which, as Weisenthal notes, is way above earlier estimates of 13 cents.
 
But let’s try to visualize this information . . .

This is amazing!


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Gun sales hinge on Obama re-election -- retailers prepare for surge in demand

Shelly Banjo is reporting that as Cabela's Inc. prepares the selection of guns it will sell for the holiday season and winter hunting, the outdoor-gear retailer has two plans: one if Barack Obama is re-elected, and one if he isn't.

The Sidney, Neb.-based retailer and other companies in the guns-and-ammo business say if Mr. Obama wins a second term they are preparing for a surge in sales -- the same as they saw after he was elected in 2008 -- from buyers fearful the president would back policies to make buying a gun more difficult. If Republican challenger Mitt Romney wins, though, the chain plans to stock more items such as waterproof boots and camouflage hunting gear.

"If Mitt Romney is elected and there's no perceived threat on the freedom to own guns, people might decide to spend disposable income on things like outerwear instead," said Joe Arterburn, a Cabela's spokesman.

Even though there haven't been any substantial changes to gun-control laws under Mr. Obama, Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. and Olin Corp., the maker of Winchester bullets, are anticipating another bump in sales this winter if Obama is re-elected.

Smith & Wesson raised its full-year sales forecast last week to $530 million to $540 million, up from its previous estimates of $485 million and $505 million, citing strong consumer demand that led to a 30% jump in the number of firearms sold in the first quarter of 2013 compared with the year before.

Closely-held Bass Pro Shops said it also expects gun sales to ramp up heading into the 2012 election, but declined to disclose sales figures.

Cabela's saw a 25% increase in new gun buyers right after the 2008 election, and continues to see strong sales, aided by an uptick in female and younger customers, according to Mr. Arterburn.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the largest U.S. seller of firearms and ammunition, declined to comment on its gun sales.

Retailers' preparations reflect business, not political, concerns, experts say. "Besides making up a large chunk of revenue, guns are a real traffic driver for these stores," said Wells Fargo analyst Matt Nemer. "Businesses are trying to plan, order inventory and staff stores, and you have this event coming down that could significantly impact sales."

The stores are responding to shoppers like David Humke, a 43-year-old manager at a bolt and screw company in Louisiana, who recently stopped at a Cabela's store in Allen, Texas, to browse its selection of collectible guns.

Mr. Humke, an avid deer hunter, worries guns might become less available in the future. "People feel it's coming so they're stockpiling," he said.

Adam Fetcher, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, defended Obama's policies. "President Obama's record makes clear that he supports and respects the Second Amendment and the tradition of gun ownership in this country, and we'll continue to fight back against any attempts to mislead voters," he said.

The Romney campaign declined to comment.

Adam Fetcher is a damned liar.  Here's Obama's record on guns.


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Obama will make U.S. "look like Chicago"


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Gun-ban Obama

The NRA-ILA says as we enter the home stretch of this year's critically important election, two things are certain: First, the winner of the election will have a profound effect on your Second Amendment rights, and second, it's crucial that you know where the candidates stand on the Second Amendment so that you can make the right choice.

One thing we do know: Barack Obama continues to be a serious threat to gun owners. When it comes to Obama's stance on our Second Amendment rights, you need to be fully informed about what he has said and done during his entire political career.

To take a closer look at where Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment, please be sure to visit another NRA-PVF website -- GunBanObama.com. This website is a comprehensive resource for the facts on Barack Obama's anti-Second Amendment stance. 


GunBanObama.comis loaded with features and information that you, as a gun owner, need to see for yourself. It will also help you educate your fellow Second Amendment advocates. You'll want to pass GunBanObama.com along to anyone you know who loves freedom and supports the Second Amendment. And please note that the site features an Obama "anti-gun timeline" that you can embed in your blog, website or Facebook page, to help spread the word.

Please visit GunBanObama.com today and add this website as one of your bookmarks. And be sure to forward it to others who need to be informed. Then, turn your information in to ACTION.

There's also some stuff about Obama and the RIGHT to keep and near arms in the archive.


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Can the police take your gun(s) during a state of emergency?

Cam Edwards says it is important that gun owners know their rights, especially ahead of potential disasters like Hurricane Sandy. In 2006, then-President George W. Bush signed an executive order called the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act that strengthened individual gun rights during a national emergency.


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Obama administration partners with the U. N. to attack the 2nd Amendment

Katie Pavlich is reporting that, not shockingly, immediately after Barack Obama was reelected for a second term, his administration reinforced its support for the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty [ATT], also known as the "Small Arms Treaty." Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been expressing full support of the treaty on behalf of the United States for years now while for political reasons, President Obama sat back. Now, the entire administration will be out front in support of ratifying it.

Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee's call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global conventional arms trade.

 U.N. delegates and gun control activists have complained that talks collapsed in July largely because Obama feared attacks from Republican rival Mitt Romney if his administration was seen as supporting the pact, a charge Washington denies.

 The month-long talks at U.N. headquarters broke off after the United States - along with Russia and other major arms producers - said it had problems with the draft treaty and asked for more time.

 But the U.N. General Assembly's disarmament committee moved quickly after Obama's win to approve a resolution calling for a new round of talks March 18-28. It passed with 157 votes in favor, none against and 18 abstentions.

 U.N. diplomats said the vote had been expected before Tuesday's U.S. presidential election but was delayed due to Superstorm Sandy, which caused a three-day closure of the United Nations last week.

 An official at the U.S. mission said Washington's objectives have not changed.

 "We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout," the official said.

So what is the ATT? And is the argument from the U.N. that it won't suppress Second Amendment rights an honest one?
 
The general stated goal of the ATT is to prevent terrorists from getting their hands on guns and military equipment (no, really). I wrote about this in my book:

The alleged purpose of the treaty is to prevent crime, terrorism and even war by regulating the sale of guns, but it is a rarely noted irony that some of the biggest supporters of the treaty are also the world's most brazen supporters of terrorism, such as Iran, Syria and Cuba. Its proposed regulations extend to the level of firearms accessories, including scopes and magazines. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed her support for the treaty in October 2009, saying, "The United States is prepared to work hard for a strong international standard in this area by seizing the opportunity presented by the Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty at the United Nations.... The United States is committed to actively pursuing a strong and robust treaty that contains the highest possible, legally binding standards for the international transfer of conventional weapons. We look forward to this negotiation."

The final draft of the treaty is scheduled to be completed by summer 2012. The State Department, Department of Justice, and ATF have taken a leadership role in pushing the treaty. The Bush administration refused to participate ion the negotiations, but the Obama administration has been a willing participant in drafting the treaty, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at the helm. Obama has said he would like to see the treaty ratified as a way of demonstrating American's respect for "international norms."

Because the UN's definition of "criminal activity" in the treaty is so broad, American gun owners could find themselves prosecuted if UN officials deemed owning some firearms a crime. If the treaty were to be effective, it would imply the necessity for strict regulation of individual firearms ownership. Mexico wants the treaty to regulate hunting rifles, because it claims hunting rifles are used by drug cartels. But of course any weapon that can be used for sport of self-defense could also be used in ways that the treaty might regulate.

The treaty calls for international reporting measures that would require countries to trace and keep track of weapons sold and transferred. Not only would this consume a massive amount of government resources, it would also be intrusive. Many Second Amendment advocates regard the creation of a nationwide database of lawful gun owners and a catalog of every firearm they own as an ominous expansion of government power. The most vocal supporters of the treaty in the United States are gun control organizations such as the Brady Campaign and the Joyce Foundation (the anti-gun organization that once counted Obama as a member).

Barack Obama is no doubt the most anti-gun president in the history of the United States and his pandering to the corrupt UN should be alarming to anyone who wants to keep their Second Amendment freedoms.


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"Violence Tax" -- Illinois County approves new $25 fee on each firearm purchased

Erica Ritz is reporting that Cook County in Illinois approved a slew of new taxes Friday, including an extra $1 tax on each packet of cigarettes sold, a $1,000 tax per year on certain slot machines, a 1.2% tax on items costing more than $3,500 purchased outside the county, and a $25 tax on each firearm sold in suburban gun shops, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.
 
The hope is that the new taxes will chip away at the roughly $240 million budget deficit by raising roughly $40 million in new revenue, NBC Chicago adds.
 
The board approved the changes by a vote of 16-1, and though a number of local business owners are concerned the new taxes will push customers into neighboring counties, legislators appear pleased with their work.
 
"Of the three budgets we have worked on, this has been the easiest. It has come together very well in a very bipartisan spirit," Commissioner John Fritchey told ABC Chicago.
 
Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle contributed: "This is a fiscally responsible budget that reflects the values and priorities of my administration. It makes key investments in our public health and public safety systems that will advance a regional health care model and further criminal justice reform."

Though Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, it is also one of the most dangerous cities.

The proposal originally included a five-cent tax on each bullet, as well, but the nickel-a-bullet tax has been dropped for the time being.

For now, NBC Chicago explains how the $25 “violence tax” is being justified:

“Gun violence is a real problem for us,” she said. “It’s a problem for us in our criminal justice system and it’s a problem for us in our health care system, and I make no apologies for the proposal.”

Preckwinkle said acute care for the average shooting victim cost taxpayers $52,000 because nearly 70 percent of the victims don’t have health insurance.

The move follows a violent Chicago summer, when some weekends left multiple people killed and dozens others injured in shootings. The city’s murder rate is up 25 percent, and the Cook County Jail is near capacity with 9,000-plus inmates.

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“I think it is a good thing, especially in this economy right now,” Cook County resident James Fabbrini weighed in.

Newsy has more . . .

Liberal logic -- penalizing the law-abiding for the acions of the criminal.

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Why not apply this tax to all arrested for a violent crime? If they are acquited the fee should be returned.
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Gun control for the U.S. by Obama administration by U.N. treaty!


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I talked to my gun dealer Monday, about getting a flat-top DPSM in .223. He said he had 14 quality ARs in .223 on election day and sold every one by Thursday. He can't find good ARs anywhere, especial the DPSM I want.

Ammo on the internet is the same, all the fairly good but reasonably priced case lots are gone.

Maybe this initial hysteria will calm down by Thanksgivng and production/shipping will catch up.
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Interesting slant on things -- the progressives worst nightmare -- America's hunters
 
They are the world 's largest army, America 's hunters!

A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking onclusion:

There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin alone.  Allow me to restate that number -- 600,000.

Over the last several months, Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in The world. 

More men under arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined.

These men deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin, to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania, and Michigan's 700,000 hunters. All of whom have now returned home safely.

Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.

Now add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states -- it's tens of millions more.

The point?

America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower.

Hunting? It's not just a way to fill the freezer. It 's a matter of National Security.

That's why all enemies, foreign and especially domestic -- that's you Barry -- want to see us disarmed.
 
So if we disregard some assumptions that hunters don't possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain.

What army of 2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens that hit what they aim at???

For the sake of our freedom, don't ever allow gun control or the confiscation of guns.

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Last weekend, the Dulles (Northern Virginia) gun show was jammed. This show is one of the largest guns shows in the nation. It was difficult to find a place to park. People had their own small carts to carry away the ammo. Maryland citizen can't by a gun in Virginia? No problem. A Maryland gun dealer set up a transfer station. Buy the gun from a Virginia dealer. He carries it over to the Maryland transfer dealer and you will pick it up next week legally in Maryland at the Maryland dealer. His table was mobbed. Lots of families, young and old. All races were well represented. Surprising number of Asians. Attendance had to number in the thousands. And they think these people are going to give up their guns. Really?

BTW: Someone should add up the number of concealed carry permits in the 57 states. I bet that's astounding! Maybe I'll do it.

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We just had the Crossroads of the West Gun Show and Sale here at the Grand and it was TOTALLY PACKED.  Don't know the stats, as no one has said anything about it, but I drove by the location and could NOT see a parking place and I was on the Freeway up higher than the parking area below.....  and it  went on for THREE DAYS, and there is another  The Reno Gun Show and Sale at the Convention Center here on Dec, 22 and 23, and although it is smaller (it is the one I typically go to), there is always a good attendance to it, as more of the dealers are somewhat local.....  the one at the Grand is about the size of THREE CONVENTION ROOMS and roughly a quarter bigger than a football field, and crammed full with the aisles fairly tight and harder to navigate because of the sheer crowd size, size of the venue and amount of dealers, and the many things to see, but I prefer to be able to walk around a whole show in a few hours as opposed to taking three days to get around the whole (bigger) thing.
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House aims to block U. N. Arms Trade Treaty implementation

Bridget Johnson is reporting that dozens of lawmakers in the House are trying to stop a second-term drive by Barack Obama to sign a United Nations treaty they say would put Americans' Second Amendment rights at risk.
 
Obama reversed the course of the George W. Bush administration in October 2009, supporting negotiations at the UN for the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that began in 2001 with the Programme of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects.

At the July 2012 international conference on the treaty, the administration called the selection of Iran to serve as vice-president of the conference "outrageous." Global players accused the U.S. of undermining treaty efforts to look more gun-friendly on the campaign trail, and talks collapsed.
 
After Obama's re-election, he proved -- shall we say -- more flexible.
 
Mere hours after his victory, the UN General Assembly's disarmament committee seized the day and put forth a resolution calling for resumption of the arms treaty talks. It passed with no objections, 18 abstentions, and 157 "yes" votes. The U.S. voted in favor of the resolution.
 
Negotiations begin again in March, and a deal could be reached just months after that.

Lawmakers and lobbyists have expressed alarm that the July draft of the treaty, which aims to regulate international trade in conventional weapons, threatens the right to bear arms as well as U.S. sovereignty. One of many concerns is with the requirement in the draft treaty -- which will be the starting point for final negotiations -- for each member state to keep records on "end users," or gun purchasers, for a minimum of 10 years. Hence, Americans who purchase an imported firearm may have to be registered in the country of origin. Ammunition could also be tracked and logged the same way, though the State Department has argued that they don't see this as feasible due to "significant administrative and financial costs."
 
Some groups have also pushed for the final treaty to be even more prohibitive, tracking and registering all weapons, all transfers, and all transactions. "The ATT should not exempt certain small arms (for example, sporting or hunting firearms) from its scope of application," Amnesty International has stated.
 
Before the House left for the Thanksgiving break, Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) introduced a resolution to make the treaty not binding  and allow no federal funds to implement it unless it has consent in the Senate and has been the subject of implementing legislation by Congress.
 
"There is considerable cause for alarm regarding the UN's renewed efforts to forge an Arms Trade Treaty that could trample the constitutional rights of Americans, and could seriously compromise our national security and the security of our allies, whom we will be less able to arm and less quick to defend due to the restrictions placed on us by the ATT," Kelly said.
 
The resolution has 78 co-sponsors from both sides of the aisle, including Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-Mich.), Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas), Small Business Committee Sam Graves (R-MO), and Veterans Affairs Committee Chairman Jeff Miller (R-Fla.).


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Gun store owner who banned Obama supporters says "business is booming"

Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr. is reporting that Last week, the owner of an Arizona gun shop made national headlines after it was reported that he had posted a sign and taken out a full page ad in a local newspaper that banned Obama supporters from entering his store. One week later, Cope Reynolds is cashing in on the attention.

Mr. Reynolds, owner of Southwest Shooting Authority says “business is booming” after his sign and newspaper ad caught the attention of various media outlets. The sign read: “If you voted for Barack Obama, your business is not welcome at Southwest Shooting Authority. You have proven you’re not responsible enough to own a firearm.”

Reynolds says he has been inundated with hundreds of calls and emails from media types and supporters. When asked about business, he replied, “I’ve been busier than a cat covering up poop on a marble floor.”

The Arizona Republic spoke with Mr. Reynolds about his sign and the effect it’s had on his business:

“People are saying that I’ve alienated half of our customers,” Reynolds said, laughing. “No, I haven’t. I haven't alienated any of my customers, because the people who voted for Obama don’t buy guns here. They don't come here at all. I haven’t alienated. I’ve improved things. I have packages sitting on my desk to be shipped to places like Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Idaho, Nevada and California.”

Talking Points Memo asked Mr. Reynolds how he will prevent Obama supporters from entering the store and purchasing merchandise. He said he will not be conducting a litmus test to determine the customer’s political views but that he is considering giving discounts to registered Republicans and Libertarians.

Seventy-Five percent of the calls he is getting are positive, Reynolds says. “You can always tell the ones that are not -- 9 out of 10 of them start out with vile and nasty language. And I guess they don’t have the intelligence to carry on a conversation like an adult.” Reynolds also revealed that he has been receiving death threats saying, “Just comes with the territory I guess.”

Mr. Reynolds admits that there haven’t been any serious attempts by the Obama administration to change America’s gun laws, but he suspects that is coming now that Obama has been reelected.

Anybody that reads blog comments knows that progressives would have nothing to say if their opinions weren't laced with "vile and nasty language."


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Obama to bypass congress to ban semiautomatic firearms

Jim Kouri is reporting that an anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis, gun law expert John M. Snyder warned on Friday.
 
"According to confidential information," he said, "forces linked with the administration suggest the government classify semiautomatic firearms and multiple capacity ammunition feeding devices as Title 2 National Firearms Act items under the Gun Control Act of 1968.
 
Americans familiar with federal gun laws understand that under this scenario, semiautomatics and high capacity magazines could be acquired only with great difficulty and at great expense by America’s estimated 100 million law-abiding firearms owners, notes Snyder.
 
According to Snyder and other gun ownership advocates, the Obama administration long ago realized it would have insurmountable difficulty getting a semiautomatic gun ban, such as that considered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and others, passed Congress, especially when the House is controlled by defenders of the Second Amendment.
 
Congressional Second Amendment supporters already are preparing for such a battle. During the Clinton years, Congress enacted a partial, temporary semiautomatic ban but allowed it to sunset after 10 years because of its lack of significant negative impact on crime, according to surveys conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.
 
The Obama administration, now safely reelected, may order the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to take the classification step. Some gun-grabbers view the designation of Street Sweeper shotguns as Title 2 firearms during the Clinton administration as precedent for such a move.
 
For several years, various groups and individuals have discussed the anti-gun owner proclivities of the current administration. Obama anti-gun owner activities have involved the promulgation of anti-gun federal regulations, the appointment of anti-gun judges to the federal courts, including the Supreme Court, and the appointment of anti-gun personnel to other high federal positions, including the appointment of an attorney general of the United States who is suspected by many observers of playing politics with the nation’s law enforcement community.
 
"It’s been under this attorney generalship that the infamous Fast and Furious federal gun running scandal involving ATF has occurred," Snyder stated. "The administration may feel that a replacement in that office could facilitate a ratcheting-up of its anti-gun activities with announcement and inauguration of the proposed semiautomatic classification/ban."
 
"Such a move surely would galvanize the law-abiding grass roots gun-owning American public into opposition as it never has before. At the very least, it would lead to an action in the U.S. House of Representatives to defund if not eliminate entirely the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. To what it would lead at the very most is anyone’s guess," warns Snyder.
 
A former NRA editor and director of national gun rights organizations, Snyder has been defending the individual Second Amendment civil right of law-abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms for over 46 years. He’s been called the senior rights activist in Washington by Shotgun News. He also serves on the advisory board of the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Moral Liberal Contributing Editor, Jim Kouri, CPP, is the fifth Vice President and Public Information Officer of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, has served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Contact Jim.


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Gun control -- dictator-style

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The Communist Party must command all the guns; that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party." -- Mao Zedong, Nov 6, 1938

Bradlee Dean says how ironic that those who are calling for gun control are those who want the guns so they can have the control.

It is of interest to the American people to take note of those they entrust to serve them. We are a government of the people, by the people and for the people, yet time and time again in this country we have leaders in government who put on the guise of “patriot” and then turn out to be the criminal in garb.

We learned last week about the criminal acts of anti-gun mayors. We found that anti-gun mayors are criminals themselves, guilty as charged within their own ranks of such crimes as tax evasion, extortion, accepting bribes, child pornography, trademark counterfeiting, perjury – and one demigod mayor was even convicted of assaulting a police officer.

The crimes these anti-gunner mayors are convicted of suggest they are public enemies rather than public servants. No wonder they want to take guns from law-abiding citizens.

These politicians know full well that where the citizenry operates in the rights given to them without government interference, namely the right to bear arms, crime diminishes. And with mud on their face, they know when they interfere with the right to bear arms, crime skyrockets.

What we see is that some of today’s politicians are magnifying the crimes they are placed in office to prevent.

They allow crime to be promoted through entertainment; and when the crime is committed, they are there hoping to grab the guns away.

This is exactly how they operate. They demonize the gun, not the criminal.

Friends, this mentality is like blaming spoons for people being overweight, as if to say the act is apart from the actor.

Since criminal politicians refuse to look at history, which can be at the present our greatest teacher, it is very clear that gun banners know exactly what they are attempting to do – put the Second Amendment in the crosshairs.

Looking back, who has committed murder in the largest degree? Dictators Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc.

Time and time again it has been a corrupt government that is responsible for the mass murder of its own people under the deceptive guise of “gun control,” all of which the said dictators implemented.

Keep in mind these people promised their citizens protection and freedom upon the forfeiture of their guns.

How many times, I ask, does history need to repeat itself?

Our forefathers did not arm the American people for the purpose of hunting, but rather to protect themselves from those who were doing the hunting, namely the tyrant King George. The Second Amendment is only to vouchsafe our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and to ensure all of the other rights given unto us by our Creator.

The wisdom of the framers of the Constitution once again is found consistent with the lessons of the Bible they used as their bedrock for civil law. The people’s individual protection should always be a primary concern of government “of the people.” In a righteous country, self-government reigns by the constraint of Christian morals. The civil government that desires such a monopoly of force (i.e. they are the only ones with guns) is a threat to the lives, liberty and property of its citizens, for that government ceases to be “of and for the people.”

George Washington, our first president, said:

“From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.”


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