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A Trump supporter's apology to liberals


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This is the best election ever.

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Obama Staffers  Seen Crying as Obama Congratulates President-Elect Trump in the White House Garden on 11/9/2016
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/wow-obama-staffers-seen-crying-president-elect-trump-drives-white-house/

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Trump won 306 Electoral Votes (including Michigan) compared to Clinton 228 Electoral Votes.

That is a Whooping.

Crushing Hillary:  Trump's Landslide by the Numbers
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/trumps-landslide-by-the-numbers-he-crushed-hillary/
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Check out the election map by county

This map by counties is astounding. It’s a sea of red with little islands of blue. You can almost pick out every urban center by the blue and they are often the areas where Americans are suffering the most. Demographics contributes to the areas in blue.

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Update:  Trump takes Michigan -- gets 306 electoral votes



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Though I am optimistic about what this will mean for America, I would caution all on giving DT a blank check.  He is, after all, a populist and a moderate.  Not that that is a bad thing.  But he is not a conservative.  We need to pay close attention to his cabinet picks, SCOTUS picks, and his agenda ... in detail.  Remember that 9 of 10 of his SCOTUS picks to date are pro-government on many issues, not pro-constitution which is what we should all want.  If his picks are good, and his agenda is measured in favor of the folks, then we might consider him a keeper.  If not, remember that the true power of this country is in its people, not the few who deign to lead us.  Regards!
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THANKS BECKWITH FOR YOUR PART
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Ad majorem Dei gloriam, canis mala mortus est!!!!
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Emmanuel.  God is with us.  He did not forsake America because WE THE PEOPLE understood we made a mistake in electing (probably by Fraud) the Muslim Usurper.

It is not going to be easy, but just like England with Brexit, FREEDOM never is easy.

It is required and Scalia, the other DNC whistle blowers who were killed by Arkancide are one step further to getting Justice.
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Good morning, and a fine morning it is!!!!!! Congratulations to President-elect, Donald J. Trump. Can't wait to hear the giant sucking sound : Drain the Swamp!
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Oh My God! Thank you! Welcome.Back.America.
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Donald Trump -- President of the United States of America

Hillary Clinton called Donald Trump to concede defeat in the presidential election, a Trump aide confirmed early Wednesday morning, not long after her campaign chairman signaled she would not directly address supporters or concede until later.

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CNN is in shock!

Now the prosecution of the biggest crook ever can begin -- and I got to say this -- Barack Obama, go f**k yourself!

Word is, Trump will meet with Barry tomorrow.


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Real time Electoral College results

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=presidential+election+results&eob=enn/p//0/0///////////

This is cool. Click "All States" or "Swing States"

Presented by Google so beware??

Trump up at 7:30 -- Ohio, North Carolina and West Virginia close at 7:30. Trump up in Virginia.

Trump has won Indiana; Kentucky; West Virginia

Clinton has won Vermont

At 7:50, Fox News called South Carolina for trump

At 8:00, Fox News called Mississippi; Missouri; Oklahoma; Tennessee for Trump

Clinton has won Rhode Island

Google gives Delaware; District of Columbia; Maryland; Massachusetts; New Jersey to Clinton -- reports zero votes

At 8:15 Electoral Votes are: Trump 67 -- Clinton 68

Google and Fox News call Alabama for Trump

The Google results are lagging -- Fox news more current

At 9:00, Fox News calls Arkansas; Kansas; Nebraska; North Dakota; South Dakota; Texas; Wyoming for Trump

Hillary wins Illinois; New York

At 9 PM Electoral Votes are Trump 139 -- Clinton 97  -- he's more than half way there

At 9 PM Trump is up in the popular vote by 1.6 million (18,677,953 to 17,057,964)

Clinton has won Connecticut

Fox News calls Louisiana for Trump

At 10 PM Fox News calls Montana for Trump

Fox News call Virginia for Clinton -- 3 million votes -- 6,000 spread

At 10 PM Electoral Votes are Trump 150 -- Clinton 122

At 10:30 PM Trump is up in the popular vote by 1.4 million (33,398,498 to 32,021,011)

At 10:30 Fox News calls Ohio for Trump and Colorado; Illinois; New Mexico for Clinton

At 10 PM Electoral Votes are Trump 168 -- Clinton 131

Trump is up by 150,000 votes in Florida, but no one will make the call

At 10:46, Fox News called North Carolina and Ohio for Trump

At this point -- 10:50 -- Trump has a real shot!

At 11, Fox News reports Trump win Florida 

Clinton wins the left coast -- Washington; Oregon; California (real shocker)

At 11 PM Electoral Votes are Trump 216 -- Clinton 202

Trump is now 54 Electoral Votes from being the President of the United States of America

At 11:09, Fox News called Utah for Trump

At 11:10 PM Electoral Votes are Trump 222 -- Clinton 202

Trump is up by more than 2 million popular votes

It's at this point where Team Clinton started making phone calls and threatening people with death and dismembering

Fox News just called Iowa and Wisconsin for Trump -- Trump 238 -- Clinton 209

Fox News reports Trump win Georgia

At 11:30 -- Trump 254 -- Clinton 209

Trump is up in Michigan; Minnesota; Wisconsin -- that will put him over 270 if it sticks

CNN just reported that Trump is ahead of Hillary in Pennsylvania

At 12:14 AM, Wednesday, November 9, 2016, Donald Trump is 16 electoral votes away from being the next President of the United States.

The man defines "tough son-of-a-bitch American."

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At 12:30 -- Trump 254 -- Clinton 215

We haven't seen anything like this guy since George Patton.

Thank you, Jesus!

I'm going to bed. I don't drink and I've been drinkin' VO since 7 PM.

I think  we're going to win!


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Hillary support crashes in Reuters likely turnout poll -- down 8 Points in 4 Days -- so Reuters deleted the poll

Kristinn Taylor (GatewayPundit) is reporting that Democratic Party presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s support has nosedived in the three days leading up to election day.

Hillary Clinton is down to 35.9 percent of likely voters in the Reuters five day rolling poll.

Look at the Reuters trend line -- HILLARY'S SUPPORT HAS COLLAPSED -- IN FOUR DAYS!

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Clinton was at 43.5 percent on November 4th and then her support started crashing to 41.8 on November 5th, to 40.5 percent on November 6th end up at 35.9 percent on November 7th.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has seen his support rise from a low of 37.1 percent on November 4th to 42 percent on November 7th.

The polling sample decreased as the polls were taken closer to election day but the trend is clear: Clinton is tanking and Trump is surging among likely voters.

UPDATE: Reuters deleted the polling data.  The Poll now cuts off at November 3rd!



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NYPD support for Trump on quiet display

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Christopher Bedford (DailyCaller) says that in the days leading up to the first election results, reporters have busied themselves running around Manhattan complaining that they cannot find any New York Donald Trump supporters to interview. They're actually pretty easy to spot: they're the ones in blue uniforms.

Police are out in force, parking trucks filled with sand in front of high-value targets, blocking streets near the candidates, snarling up traffic and doing their best to keep everyone safe and moving. Deciding I'd have a little fun with the capital of American liberalism, I've spent the past 24 hours taking in the city underneath a red "Make America Great Again" hat I picked up as a campaign souvenier. It causes a flurry of whispers in most bars and restaurants, but nothing like the reaction of reporters who, camera crew in tow, run up to me excited they've found a real one. When I gently tell them I'm a reporter from D.C. having a bit of fun trolling the streets, the disappointment on the faces of Canadian, Japanese and CBS reporters is… visible.

The police out in force, however, have a different reaction: "I like that hat," one said in a hushed tone as I walked near a heavily fortified Trump Tower. His partner nodded in agreement. In fact, the majority of the approving nods this day came from the cops. A strictly unscientific sampling of officers out of their superior's earshot was difficult. When I asked about support for Trump on the force, most looked to their partners and slowly, carefully said something like, "We… are… objective… and… professional," but others were more forthcoming.

"I… cannot possibly comment on that," one police officer said, smiling as he nodded a "Yes" to us. His partner laughed, nodding along.

Police support for a candidate who supports them is not without precedent. In William F. Buckley's 1965 race for mayor of New York, the police loved him, rewarding his support for law-and-order, pro-police policies. Neal Freeman, who was with Buckley at the time, writes in his 2015 remembrance, "The Unmaking of a Mayor,"

I can say with absolute certainty that in the summer of 1965 the NYPD fell in love with Bill Buckley. I don't mean just the Irish and Italians, either, but the black, Hispanic, and Asian cops, too. Bill was stating their case with eloquence and verve and doing so at a time when few other public figures would stand with them. (Not unlike today, in 1965 there were reputable people and reputable publications who claimed to believe that one of the principal causes of urban crime was police misconduct. Not unlike today, those claims were evidence-free and ideologically powered.)

No one can credit Trump with "eloquence," but the "verve" is on full display when he defends our embattled police, and it appears that 51 years later, the cops on the beat are still listening.



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Election 2016 -- Clinton vs turnip

A final thought for our #NeverTrump friends with an honest disagreement of opinion, or perhaps the fence-sitter in your life that may need a little persuading.


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Trump wins the vote in New Hampshire's "midnight voting" towns --  32 to 25

This is a good start for Trump. In 2012, Obama beat out Mitt Romney in the three towns, 28-14.

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USA Today is reporting that as the world waits with bated breath for the results of Tuesday’s contentious presidential election, its eyes turned briefly to three sleepy hamlets in rural New Hampshire, as their residents -- fewer than 100 total -- became the first in the nation to cast their ballots.

In Dixville Notch, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump 4-2. Libertarian Gary Johnson received one vote, and the 2012 Republican candidate, Mitt Romney received a surprise write-in ballot. In the slightly larger burg of Hart’s Location, Clinton won with 17 votes to Trump’s 14. Johnson got three votes, while write-ins Bernie Sanders and John Kasich each got one. And in Millsfield, Trump won decisively, 16-4, with one write-in for Bernie Sanders.

So, in the three New Hampshire towns with midnight voting, Trump came out ahead 32-25.



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Could the 2016 election be one of America's finest hours?

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Michael Russell (Politichicks) says this election has caused me to completely redefine not only how I view politics, but also how I view the world. I had no idea what was going on, but I have come to realize a great many things in the last 18 months. The hardest thing to admit is that I was utterly clueless about the actual situation. I had no idea what was at stake, but right now, it's hard to ignore the grave dangers faced by the United States. It was a slow process, but step by step I have seen how everything has built up:

  • The First Amendment is under assault. Political correctness is totally out of hand. There is a major difference using free speech to incite hatred or violence against others and simply having a personal opinion. The rule should be "I will leave you alone, if you leave me alone." I had gradually become more and more irritated with political correctness. It's as though all speech is now subject to censorship.
  • The mainstream media has dropped all pretense of impartiality. They have granted one presidential candidate almost total control over what they report. We now have what is tantamount to a state-controlled media. Period. In theory, the press should serve a vitally important role in a democracy. They have the means to monitor politicians and bureaucrats. While it is up to the voters to decide policy through those they elect, it is the duty of the press to hold government accountable in an impartial manner. Ethics has been thrown out the window. It's easy to look good in an interview or debate if you already have the questions in advance.
  • Why have news outlets abandoned journalistic integrity? The only apparent answer to me is that mainstream news outlets are typically subunits of much larger enterprises who have a larger agenda. At one time this would have sounded crazy, but it's hard to ignore the fact that Clinton, people of extreme wealth, large corporations, foreign governments, and others are in cahoots. Most of what I read and hear through mainstream media is nothing more than Hillary propaganda. The connection between Clinton and her collaborators is evident when looking at her campaign contributions and contributions to the Clinton Foundation.
  • If I took mainstream media at face value the only possible conclusion I could draw is that Clinton will not only win the election, but will win easily. Furthermore, her presidency will usher in a new era of prosperity for all of America. Fortunately, private citizens, smaller independent news operations, and Wikileaks have provided overwhelming evidence as to the level of corruption associated not only with Hillary but the entire Democratic Party leadership. I also have no reason to rule out the possibility that Republican politicians aren't a part of the larger plan as well. Why would the Bush family suddenly begin supporting the Clintons? Why do some GOP members bash Trump? I find it very suspicious and very alarming. Give me one good reason why I shouldn't rule out the possibility of election fraud? At this point, all the rules have been thrown out.
  • From a big picture perspective, I don't think it is a stretch to conclude that there is massive corruption in government, if not outright treason. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to make some very basic observations. The Clintons have become fabulously wealthy despite the fact their careers have been in government. You don't get rich serving the interests of the citizens, so whose interests are they serving? In all probability, Clinton used her position as Secretary of State to sell favors to the highest bidder (i.e. pay for play). Payments took the form of donations to the Clinton Foundation. Her private e-mail server represents a deliberate attempt to conceal the fraud as well as reckless disregard for sensitive information. It's almost certain that Barack Obama is culpable in the scheme as well. Surely he was aware of the situation. This means a would-be president, a former President, and the sitting President are in all probability guilty of high treason.
  • Exhibit A in making the case that Hillary has engaged in espionage is her relationship with Huma Abedin. One can reasonably infer she has connections to fanatic Muslims. Since we no longer have a functional press, no one has scrutinized her ties and the possibility she could very well be a Saudi spy. However, she may ultimately prove to be the Achilles heel of a concerted effort to destroy America.
  • If one considers all of this, the threat to our Republic is clear. Obama has stated "we are no longer a Christian nation." To me that is asking the Almighty to unleash his wrath on this country. I believe in the separation of church in state, but I also know it would be disastrous to turn away from Christian principles. Obama has refused to enforce immigration laws. If our nation suddenly becomes overrun with illegal immigrants and the population has vastly different religions and backgrounds, how are we supposed to represent one unified people with a common purpose? The concept of what it means to be American, what it means to be patriotic, what it means to be free, starts to become less clear.

I think our country as at a defining moment and the strength of the Republic is about to face its greatest test.

As I have seen events unfold, I gradually came to see Donald Trump in a different light. I'm not going to blindly agree with everything he does but I can't deny what he represents either. Perhaps he grasped what the majority of us weren't seeing. Its undeniable to me at this point that Trump is the right man at the right time in history. He is the only man who could have defied political correctness, withstood an unprecedented media onslaught, confronted Hillary with the truth and still be standing at this point.

Moreover, Donald Trump has caused many to rediscover their sense of patriotism and American pride. He has inspired people. I guess it really doesn't matter who gets us to rally around the flag as long as somebody does it.

In retrospect, the situation never called for a saintly leader -- but it did call for an outsider. Trump has endured endless attacks by the media and others and we are constantly reminded of his flaws. My hope is that Trump's flaws (real and imagined) will serve to limit his powers as president in a constructive way. Too much power has accrued to the Office and if we stay on this path we could someday elect a dictator who decides to stay.  So I also define Trump by what he intends to stop as much as I do by what he intends to actually do.

At this point, Trump is all that stands between us and Hillary. He isn't perfect, but I believe he has started a movement that won't be stopped. I also believed he has matured as a person and as a leader. No one could endure what he has and not be changed.

Ultimately, I believe it will be those within government that help stop our destruction. People who join the FBI don't do so out of a love of crime and disrespect. Our military should never be misused to further a selfish political agenda. There are many loyal Americans who are sick of the lies and the cover ups.

The road to recovery began with the movement started by Trump.

Whether he wins the Presidency or not, the movement will endure. Heroes will rise and tyrants will fall. According to Churchill, the Battle of Britain in World War II represented Britain's finest hour. It was a seemingly hopeless situation but in the end 'never was so much owed by so many to so few.' With God's help, I believe America's finest hour is at hand. It will be an hour when we, too, will find ourselves owing much to very few.


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Trump edges out Clinton in Michigan on election eve

Ted Goodman (DailyCaller) is reporting that Republican nominee Donald Trump holds a slight lead over Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in Michigan on the eve of Election Day, according to a newly released poll.

Trafalgar group, a Republican leaning firm, surveyed over 1,200 "likely general election voters" in the Great Lakes state on Nov. 6.

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Trump garnered 48.52 percent support, while Clinton received 46.82 percent support. Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein received 2.89 and 0.90 percent support respectively -- 0.87 percent of respondents support someone else or are undecided.

The survey also asked voters who they think most of thier neighbors are voting for, and Trump received 52.14 percent of the vote. While 39.78 percent said they thought most of thier neighbors were supporting Clinton, 4.14 said Johnson and 0.81 responded with Stein.

Likely general election voters were selected at random from a list of registered voters based on election participation and registration date, according to Trafalgar. In excess of 45,000 households were called over the duration of the poll, and each household participant was asked to opt-in to the survey if they planned to vote in the 2016 presidential election. The margin of error is 2.77 percent.

Strategic National Poll showed the two nominees in a dead heat, with 44 percent support in the Mitten state on Nov. 3

Fox 2 Detroit/Mitchell poll reported that Clinton had a five-point lead in Michigan on Nov. 3. The RealClearPolitics average shows Trump at 42.3 percent and Clinton at 47.3 percent in Michigan between Nov. 1 to Nov. 4.

Trump hosted his final campaign event in Grand Rapids, Mich. Monday night.

Clinton visited Michigan Monday, as did Barack Obama and former President Bill Clinton, who visited Lansing Sunday. The Democratic nominee closes out her campaign at a rally in Philadelphia, Penn., the place where the former first lady accepted the Democratic party nomination for president.



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Patriot's QB Tom Brady and Coach Belichick endorse Trump

Last night Donald Trump told the New Hampshire crowd Tom Brady called to say he voted Trump. Then Donald Trump read an endorsement from Bill Belichick to the crowd.

The packed arena went nuts!

I can understand that folks in other parts of the country may not be impressed, but this is a very big deal up here in New England.

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Here's why the polls are wrong -- Trump will win in a landslide

Tom Franklin (GatewayPundit) is reporting that Realclearpolitics.com has the following electoral map right now. They did an average of all the leading polls to get this map.

Electoral vote totals in the "safe states" (red or blue) are:

     Trump (red): 164

     Hillary (blue): 203

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The pollsters say those states in gray are toss-ups, but they're wrong.

Here's why:

  1. Pollsters are wrong on the percentage of white voters relative to other voting groups.
  2. Pollsters are ignoring the increased Republican turnout this year.
  3. Pollsters are underestimating the numbers of Democrats voting for Trump -- the "Trumpocrats."

Statespoll.com has gone state-by-state and adjusted the polls for these factors. Each day, they publish realistic numbers for key states.

Here are the latest results for key states (click on the adjusted numbers to see the analysis for each state):

North Carolina: Trump +9.1%
Remington, 11/1-11/2, 2596 Likely Voters
TRUMP 48% | Hillar 45% | Johnson 3%
Adjusted: TRUMP 50.9% | Hillary 41.8% | Johnson 3.3%

Florida: Trump +6.7%
YouGov 11/2-11/4, 1188 Registered Voters
TRUMP 45% | Hillary 45% | Johnson 4% | Stein 2%
Adjusted: TRUMP 48.1% | Hillary 41.4% | Johnson 4.5% | Stein 2.8%

Colorado: Trump +5.9%
Gravis, 11/1-11/2, 1125 RV
Hillary 40% | TRUMP 40% | Johnson 7% | Stein 4%
Adjusted: TRUMP 42.9% | Hillary 37%

Pennsylvania: Trump +3.3%
Remington 11/1-11/2, 2683 Likely Voters
Hillary 46% | TRUMP 45% | Johnson 4%
Adjusted: TRUMP 46.6% | Hillary 43.6% | Johnson 4.4%
Note from Statespoll.com: Remington didn't include stein, with Stein perhaps hillary's numbers could be minus 1~2%.

New Hampshire: Trump +2.9%
Emerson. 11/4-11/5. 1000 Likely Voters
Hillary 45.4% | TRUMP 43.8% | Johnson 4.5% | Stein 3.3%
Adjusted: TRUMP 46.3% | Hillary 43.4%

Nevada: Trump +.45%
Emerson 11/4-11/5, 600 Likely Voters
Hillary 46.8% | TRUMP 45.8% | Johnson 3.9% | Stein 1.1%
Adjusted: TRUMP 46.5% | Hillary 46.05%

With those six states in the Trump column plus Ohio and Georgia (Trump +5.2%) and several others, here's what Statespoll.com believes the election will look like:

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Bottom line: When you adjust the polls for real voters in 2016, you get very different results.

You get:

     Trump: 315 electoral votes

     Hillary: 200

     Toss up: 23

That's what real polling numbers show and they're showing a Trump landslide!

I hope this guy knows what he's talking about, but right now I'm apprehensive, but hopeful.


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Why nobody has any idea what will happen tomorrow

Lots of stuff on previous page -- cursor up a little and click "23" -- then "page down" . . .

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Keith Koffler (WhiteHouseDossier) says don't listen to pollsters. Don't listen to people who can feel what's happening on the ground. Don't listen to anybody. If anything, trust your own gut, because you have as much idea as anyone what will happen Tuesday.

As I've watched and analyzed this race, I've come to the conclusion that there are just too many variables in play this year for anyone to make a serious prediction.

Even in normal years, the lack of foreknowledge can be striking. In 2004, John Kerry was certain, early on Tuesday evening, that he was going to win. In 2012, Mitt Romney was pretty certain of the same thing, also early Tuesday evening. Not Monday. Tuesday.

You know, President John Kerry and President Mitt Romney.

Let's start with the polls.

I don't think pollsters have figured out how to conduct surveys in the modern era. The golden days of calling everybody at home on the landline are long gone. Two new variables have been introduced -- cell phones and online responses. I don't think pollsters understand yet how to weigh these factors, which are constantly evolving as people's habits continually change, and those with the oldest approach to technology die off while young adults who don't even know what a landline looks like come of age. That's one reason the polls are literally all over the place, sometimes even 15-20 points apart.

Anyway, even if you believe the polls, they show a very close race with a slight Clinton advantage. But so many big states are tossups, including Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and perhaps Michigan, which leans Clinton, and Ohio, which leans Trump. Beyond that, New Hampshire, Nevada, Colorado, and possibly Iowa, which leans Trump, and New Mexico, which leans Clinton, are tossups. And maybe even a few others.

It's true, more tossups have to break Trump's way, but it's still crazy close. Nate Silver, perhaps the nation's best political prognosticator, gives Trump and a one in three chance to win.

But these polls mean little for other reasons. First of all, we don't know how many people are lying when they say they don't support Trump, particularly those in the undecided column. Lots of people don't want to admit they back Trump. Clinton, for all her extraordinarily negative features, is generally held as the more socially acceptable choice. You support Trump, and a woman is on the phone asking you who you will vote for. What do you say? Proabably, you say you will support him -- but maybe you don't.

We also have no idea about voter turnout. Clinton and the Democrats no doubt have a well-oiled, superior ground game, but is it as good as Obama's? I doubt it. A good ground game requires get-out-the-vote volunteers who love their candidate. Nobody loves Hillary except Chelsea and Huma.

How good the GOP ground game will be is anyone's guess. And, balancing Hillary's organizational muscle is what seems to be more passion among Trump voters. Will still-furious Sanders voters turn out in the needed numbers for Clinton? Will African Americans?

Nobody knows the answers to these questions. The answers could cause dramatic shifts to the poll numbers we see.

I believe this election could end up deadlocked, with recounts, lawyers, and even civil unrest. Or Clinton could win in a landslide. Or, yes, Trump could win in a landslide.

We simply do not know.

I know one thing. For 18 months nobody ever gave Trump a chance. He's now poised to win it all.

Miracles can happen!


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Hillary Clinton cancels her Hudson River fireworks show planned for tomorrow night

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What does the Hilary campaign know? It isn't the weather:

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This is encouraging

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Data obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT shows presidential underdog Donald Trump outperforming Republican 2012 election results in Florida.

Mitt Romney went into Election Day down 161,000 in absentee ballots and early voting. He ended up losing the state by 74,000.

This time, in a dramatic surprise twist, Trump is only down 32,500! And Republicans tend to outvote Democrats on Election Day in Florida.

EDITOR'S NOTE: A late poll showed Trump nearing 50% in the sunshine state.

Developing...



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This meme is going viral

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Is Donald Trump a conventional thinker?

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Paul Mirengoff (Powerline): On Friday, Charles Krauthammer wrote what I assume will be his last column before the election. He attacked Hillary Clinton for "shiftiness, paranoia, cynicism, and disdain for playing by the rules."

However, Krauthammer found that Donald Trump's liabilities outweigh Clinton's, especially on foreign policy. He sees Trump as a threat to our open, free international order. He fears that Trump will initiate trade wars and undermine our alliances with countries like Germany, Japan, and South Korea.

Are Krauthammer's fears justified? They might be, and that possibility -- among other concerns -- should give conservatives pause.

However, I think that Krauthammer, like most other analysts, fails to recognize the extent to which Trump accepts conventional wisdom. If Trump is, as I have come to view him, a conventional thinker, then it's highly unlikely that as president he would pose a threat to the international order.

When asked where he gets the information on which he bases his foreign policy views, Trump famously replied "the shows." He meant the television news shows that do little more than recycle conventional wisdom.

As a presidential nominee, Trump now gets information and advice from a foreign policy team. Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn is a key member of that team. Flynn's foreign policy views aren't conventional in all respects, but they generally do not fall outside the conservative mainstream. He is not for toppling the international order.

Iraq provides a good example of how conventional Trump's thinking tends to be. In the run-up to the 2003 invasion, Trump was very skeptical about going to war. As the invasion approached, he gave it lukewarm support in an interview. As soon as things started to go badly, he became a strong critic.

This was a highly conventional trajectory.

Or consider Trump's position on Israel. His sympathies are with Israel but, like just about every president in recent memory, he wants to broker a big peace deal. To do so, he believes he must adopt a neutral stance.

Unfortunately, you can't get much more conventional than that.

When Trump departs from conventional wisdom, it's almost always in service of opportunism. Immigration is probably the best example. After the 2012 election, Trump espoused the utterly conventional view that Mitt Romney had shot himself in the foot by coming across as too tough on illegal immigrants.

In seeking the Republican nomination, Trump came across as much tougher than Romney. Was this because he had started to think unconventionally about immigration or was it to rile up potential supporters?

We need not guess. As the nominee, Trump says we must secure the borders, deport lawbreakers, and then see what we can do for illegal immigrants who have not caused trouble here.

This is the conventional conservative position.

Trump's talk about making our allies pay more for the security we provide or else defend themselves should, I think, be viewed in the same light as his pre-nomination posture on immigration. Such tough talk plays well and, like his rants on immigration, is based on  valid grievances.

But would Trump as president buck the uniform thinking of the foreign policy establishment and pull the plug on our allies? Almost certainly not.

Trade falls into the same category, I think. The tough talk is fundamental to Trump's appeal, and it wouldn't hurt to be somewhat tougher in trade negotiations. But as a businessman and a conventional thinker, there's little reason that Trump will give us trade wars.

Trump's positions on Russia and Syria are portrayed as unconventional, and I find them troubling. But in the case of Syria, his position is nearly indistinguishable from current Obama policy (as opposed to talk).

Trump basically wants Assad to prevail and Russia to be the power behind the dictator. Based on what Obama does (and doesn't do), it seems clear that he wants basically the same thing now. The only difference I can detect is that Obama sees Iran, more than Russia, as the power behind an entrenched Assad in post-civil war Syria (or the key portions of it).

But what about Trump's views on Russia? Isn't his willingness to engage Putin -- or as he would characterize it, to take a wait and see approach towards him -- unconventional?

At the moment, yes. But six years ago, President Obama and Hillary Clinton were more enthusiastic than Trump now is to embrace Russia. Who can forget the Russian reset?

Is this a fair point, though? Hillary appears to have learned from her mistake; shouldn't Trump have learned from it too?

My answer is yes. But Clinton's embrace of Russia flew in the face of the experience of the Bush years. At the time of the reset, Russia had invaded Georgia. Former President Bush was universally derided for his silly talk about having looked into Putin's soul.

Clinton and Obama, however, attributed our poor relations with Russia to the misguided approach of the predecessor administration. They thought they could do better.

That's basically Trump's position now. He thinks Russia's aggression stems from the weakness Putin perceives in the U.S. (just as Obama and Clinton apparently thought it stemmed from Bush's bellicosity). This view is simplistic, but not entirely wrong.

Nor is it all that unconventional.

Even discounting for bluster, Trump's foreign policy views are disquieting in some cases. But I think Krauthammer's column significantly overstates his case. There's little risk that a President Trump would bring down the international order.

Krauthammer's column also ignores the threat Hillary Clinton poses to our domestic order. Or so I will argue tomorrow.



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