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Holder received at least 5 memos on Fast & Furious

Philip Klein says Attorney General Eric Holder received at least five briefing memos about operation Fast and Furious, which runs contrary to what he told Congressional investigators in sworn testimony.
 

The memos were released today by House Oversight Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.
 
Fast and Furious was  a program run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that allowed thousands of guns to "walk" into Mexico, where they fell into the hands of drug lords -- several of the guns were found at the scene of the murder of a U.S. border agent.
 
"With the fairly detailed information that the Attorney General read, it seems the logical question for the Attorney General after reading in the memo would be "why haven’t we stopped them?"  Grassley said in a statement.  "And if he didn’t ask the questions, why didn’t he or somebody in his office?"
 
Issa added that, Attorney General Holder has failed to give Congress and the American people an honest account of what he and other senior Justice Department officials knew about gunwalking and Operation Fast and Furious.  The lack of candor and honesty from our nation’s chief law enforcement officials in this matter is deeply disturbing," Issa said.
 
The documents released included five highly redacted memos that mention the program, the earliest dating back to July 2010. In his May Congressional testimony, Holder said, "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks."
 
CBS first reported on some of the documents earlier this week. At that point, DOJ back tracked on Holder's testimony, saying that he misunderstood the question of the committee.  DOJ now acknowledges he knew about the existence of the program, but says he wasn't aware of the details.

 

Related:  Obama says Holder "not aware" of Fast And Furious

 


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"Gunrunner" was a Priority I project

Gunrunner/Fast and Furious was one of the first things that Obama and Holder did when they assumed power.

On March 24, 2009, just sixty days after the inauguration, Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced from the White House that, "the president has directed us to take action.... and Attorney General Holder and I have taken several new and aggressive steps..."

In government terms that's that's a Priority I project.  That's a fast-track project.

Ogden goes on to describe those "aggressive" steps, saying to "fortify its Project Gunrunner... specifically to facilitate gun tracing..."

A couple of days later, Holder re-introduced the "assault-rifle ban:

Now you know what Obama meant when he told gun-grabber, Sarah Brady, "I just want you to know that we are working on it (gun control).  We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."

How can Obama and Holder hide from the fact that they were the initiators of Project Gunrunner/Fast & Furious?


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We’re not interested in "Kumbayah."  Drop your "rhetoric" and resign immediately

Rep. Paul Gosar jabbed back at Attorney General Eric Holder after he swiped at him and other congressional Operation Fast and Furious investigators in a late Friday letter.  Gosar told The Daily Caller that "In Main Street America, you’d never get away with" dissembling about the gun-walking program, and that in different circumstances, "the people who’ve been responsible would’ve already been in jail."  Gosar also added his name to the short but growing list of those in Congress calling for the attorney general’s immediate resignation.
 
"It [Holder’s letter] is rhetoric.  I think it’s funny that that’s the heat we take now when we’re in the focus of hearings and the focus of calls for his resignation," Gosar told The Daily Caller.  "[He says] 'oooh, we want to sing Kumbayah and bring everybody together so that we can diffuse that.'  It’s also interesting that he and leadership in the Justice Department didn’t really exercise that in Arizona by reaching out and really trying to work on issues -- they just continue to dictate accordingly."
 
"We’ve seen this over and over again -- accused of political posturing that the administration is really guilty of," Gosar added.  "It’s false rhetoric."
 
Gosar is now the third member of Congress to publicly call for Holder’s immediate resignation, joining Reps. Blake Farenthold and Raul Labrador.
 
House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa hinted that he also thinks Holder should step down, saying on Fox News' Hannity on Friday night that he’s hoping for a "change we can believe in" at the Justice Department.  Congressman Issa, however, hasn’t made an outright call for Holder’s resignation.
 
Gosar adds that he doesn’t "want him just to resign."  He wants Holder to "comply fully with the subpoena" and offer up all the details of what happened.

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House committee to subpoena Holder in "Fast and Furious" probe

Fox News is reporting the House Oversight and Government Affairs Committee is planning to subpoena Attorney General Eric Holder this week to determine who in the Justice Department knew about "Operation Fast and Furious" -- the plan to let thousands of guns sold in the U.S. get into Mexican drug cartel hands -- and when they knew it.
 
The subpoena targeting Holder aims to get at the heart of the authorization for the program, and when the people in charge decided the program was a problem.

"When did they know it wasn't the right way to do it and why (did) they keep doing it?" asked committee chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif.
 
Issa, who is also a member of the House Judiciary Committee where Holder testified in May that he'd only learned of the program a few weeks earlier, told "Fox News Sunday" that "people in the top" of the Justice Department knew about the operation, were "well-briefed about it, and seemed to be the command and control and funding for this program."
 
Issa said those officials, who may or may not include Holder, would have known that the program was facing objections from law enforcement personnel in the field, but appeared to continue to let guns "walk" across the border.
 
"We didn't just have a few (guns) not be tracked.  The whole program was about not tracking them until they were found in the scene of crimes.  And they didn't just allow.  They facilitated just one guy buy, one straw buy, over 700 weapons," Issa said.

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Attorney General subpoenaed

 

House Republicans today announced that they had sent subpoenas to Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department to gain more information about Operation Fast and Furious, the controversial gun-walking program that allowed weapons to go to Mexican drug gangs.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) says his Oversight Committee wants some very basic information, described below.


http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2011/10/12/fast-and-furious-subpoenas/


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Grenade-Walking part of F&F!  WOW, some people need to be tried for murder!

CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson, who has reported on this story from the beginning, said on "The Early Show" that the investigation into the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)'s so-called "Fast and Furious" operation branches out to a case involving grenades. Sources tell her a suspect was left to traffic and manufacture them for Mexican drug cartels.

 

Police say Jean Baptiste Kingery, a U.S. citizen, was a veritable grenade machine. He's accused of smuggling parts for as many as 2,000 grenades into Mexico for killer drug cartels -- sometimes under the direct watch of U.S. law enforcement.

Sources tell CBS News that, in January 2010, ATF had Kingery under surveillance after he bought about 50 grenade bodies and headed to Mexico. But they say prosecutors wouldn't agree to make a case. So, as ATF agents looked on, Kingery and the grenade parts crossed the border -- and simply disappeared.

Six months later, Kingery allegedly got caught leaving the U.S. for Mexico with 114 disassembled grenades in a tire. One ATF agent told investigators he literally begged prosecutors to keep Kingery in custody this time, fearing he was supplying narco-terrorists, but was again ordered to let Kingery go.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/14/earlyshow/main20120395.shtml


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Napolitano says DoJ agents went to Mexico as part of F&F in 2009

 

At a March 2009 press conference announcing tough initiatives to help with crime on the US/Mexican border, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napalotano brags about and takes ownership of a program that sounds mysteriously like "Fast and Furious"

 


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March 2009!

 

The planning for this operation had to have begun before the inauguration -- or the day after -- it was opertional EIGHT WEEKS after the inauguration.

 

Deputy Attorney General Deputy David Ogden announced the Obama Administration's new and aggressive 'comprehensive plan' on March, 24, 2009.

 

The plan was aimed at disrupting gun trafficking between the United States and Mexico.

 

http://www.youtube.com/TheObamaFile?feature=mhee

 

If this isn't hard evidence, I don't know what is.

 

What is amazing to me is the Ogden video has been around forever and I've never seen it on the news -- I've sent it to evertbody on Fox News.

 


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I've sent them to Rep Issa!

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Issa disputed that timing, and said Holder "clearly knew more than he said when he said he only first heard of this program a few weeks before.

"His chief of staff had intimate details; we have notes in his handwriting that shows that the number two and Eric Holder's right hand had intimate details for long time," Issa told CBS' Bob Schieffer. "One of the questions is, why wouldn't you tell your boss about a program that had gotten so out-of-control that it had all kinds of people scurrying to try to stop it?"

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Issa said he believes there may have been another gun found at the scene of Terry's death - a weapon he dubbed "weapon number one" - and that if that gun exists and is proven to be the murder weapon, it would conclusively tie "Fast and Furious" to the murder.

 

"If weapon number one [which] appears to be missing were ballistically matched, we would have an absolute rather than the inconsistency," he said.

When asked directly if he were suggesting that the FBI may had tampered with evidence at the crime scene, Issa equivocated.

"We're not suggesting that, but when you have tickets [labeling the weapons found at the scene] that are numbered 2 and 3 and there's no ticket 1... When agents who were at Brian Terry's funeral made statements to his mother indicating that there were three weapons, when the two weapons that they have tested don't conclusively match up, then you look and say, 'Well, was there a third weapon at the scene? Were there additional people who escaped with weapons?' The Terry family has suffered a great deal."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/16/ftn/main20121062.shtml

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Did Obama accidentally reveal origins of Operation Fast and Furious?

Doug Book says Intent upon linking the genesis of ”gunwalking” to the Bush administration, the Obama regime has unwittingly revealed compelling leads to the birth of Operation Fast and Furious.  These include references to its possible father, former Agent in Charge of the ATF’s Phoenix Branch, William Newell, and the man who may be the Operation’s D.C Godfather, White House National Security Council staffer Kevin O’Reilly.

At the beginning of October, the White House released a number of e-mails shared between Newell and O’Reilly during the summer of 2010.  By this frequently employed method of  "selective release,"  the regime intended to relay the "fact" that as neither Fast and Furious nor "gunwalking" were mentioned in the correspondence, the pair did not directly discuss the topics.

It was hoped that this would bolster the White House claim that it knew nothing of the Operation until TV news reports brought it to the attention of the nation at large in 2011.

But in its expectation that linking gunwalking to Bush might take Fast and Furious pressure off the regime, the White House habit of deliberately providing carefully crafted half-truths or misinformation to media lackeys took a careless turn for the worse.

After the White House leaked it to him, AP reporter Pete Yost was only too glad to run with the story of 2007 ATF Operation Wide Receiver and its loss of firearms across the Mexican border during the Bush administration.

But the regime’s Ministry of Disinformation provided Yost with too much material.  For it was also revealed that the man in charge of that purely accidental "gunwalking" by the Bush administration’s ATF was Phoenix Agent in Charge Bill Newell.

In short, by managing Wide Receiver in Phoenix, Newell had gained firsthand experience in walking guns into Mexico.

In early 2009, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and other regime members systematically advanced the phony claim that 90 percent of the weapons found at Mexican crime scenes originated in U.S. gun stores.  What better way for Newell to impress his new bosses than by suggesting that walking guns to Mexico might make the 90 percent claim come nearer to the truth!

Newell had a friend in White House NSC staffer Kevin O’Reilly.  So, as Fast and Furious reporter Mike Vanderboegh puts it, "Newell may have 'weaponized'  the desire for more better statistics on the part of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and others to support the…meme…that 90 percent of weapons seized in Mexico…actually came from American civilian market sources."

It appears that Newell made the suggestion; O’Reilly delivered it to the right people in the White House; and Fast and Furious was born.  Could it have happened that way?

Apparently Congressman Darrell Issa’s House Government Reform Committee takes the possibility quite seriously, for it has just subpoenaed  "all communications to or from William Newell…between December 14th, 2010 to January 25th, 2011 and March 16th to March 19th, 2009." (Emphasis added.)  The date-specific requests mean the Committee must have reliable information regarding the associations and correspondence of Newell during those periods.  And Newell is known to have spoken often with O’Reilly during that time.

Unlike other Fast and Furious participants who have been promoted or transferred to new positions in Washington, D.C., Kevin O’Reilly has been shuffled off to Iraq by the Obama/Holder Department of Justice, out of subpoena-range of the Issa/Grassley congressional committees.  Remember, there are no coincidences in the Obama regime.

Did a suggestion to a White House-ensconced friend by a practiced "gunwalker" hoping to make a name for himself with the new administration lead to the deadly Fast and Furious scheme?  If so, who but Barack Obama and company could create such a tangled and convoluted web from such a simple beginning?


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Whistleblower ATF agent John Dodson exposes deadly "Operation Gunrunner"




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CCRKBA may hire "Shadow Investigator" if Obama doesn't appoint one

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms says that if Barack Obama does not appoint a special, independent prosecutor to investigate the Justice Department's cover-up of Operation Fast and Furious, and find out what Attorney General Eric Holder knew and when he knew it, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms may hire its own "shadow" investigator.
 
"President Obama told reporters yesterday that he has complete confidence in Eric Holder," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb.  "From our perspective, it looks like the president has complete confidence that Holder will continue to stonewall Congress and cover up this mess.  The President has been asked to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Attorney General.  If he doesn't, then someone else must act."
 
Gottlieb said the Fast and Furious scandal is "far worse than Watergate, because nobody got killed as a result of Watergate."  The investigation began when two on-line journalists uncovered evidence that the gun trafficking scheme put thousands of guns into the hands of Mexican cartel gunmen.  Two of those guns were recovered at the murder scene of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry last December

"Fast and Furious has gotten a lot of people killed," he observed, "including Brian Terry."  CBS News disclosed Friday morning that former Deputy Attorney General Gary Grindler knew about Fast and Furious 18 months ago.  He's now Holder's chief of staff.  Yet Obama and Holder both stick to the claim that they had no knowledge of the operation.  Just how much longer does this administration think the American public is going to believe that story?  People aren't that gullible.
 
"The public deserves to know whether the Attorney General, the top law enforcement official in the United States, committed perjury when he testified before Congress," Gottlieb said.

"What's happening right now is a travesty," he concluded.  "Obama isn't going to fire Holder or accept his resignation.  He desperately needs Holder to stay on the job and continue obfuscating and stonewalling.  Obama is more interested in damage control than he is in gun control."
 
With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations.  As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States.


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Hillary Clinton:‘No Evidence’ DOJ Sought Required License to Send Guns to Mexico in ‘Fast and Furious

"Under the Arms Export Control Act, the Justice Department was required to receive a written waiver from the State Department to account for their intent to cause arms to be exported to drug cartels in Mexico," said Mack. "If no such waiver was received, Justice Department officials have violated the law. And you would agree with that, correct?"

"I cannot offer an opinion," said Clinton.

"I don't know," she continued. "I mean, this is the first time I'm being asked."

Mack pressed her on the question of whether DOJ would indeed have violated the law if it had not gotten a written waiver.

"I'm not asking you if you--if there was such a written [waiver]," Mack said, "but if they hadn't asked and received by law the Justice Department would be violating U.S. law?"

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hillary-clinton-no-evidence-doj-sought-required-license-send-guns-mexico-fast-and

Basically, she'll have to get back to them...




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Clinton confirms DoJ/DHS committed felonies in Operation Fast and Furious

Bob Owens says sometimes it really does get just this simple.  By denying that State played any role at all in Operation Fast and Furious, Hillary Clinton has thrown Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano under the bus at highway speeds.

"How?" you may be asking.  Simple.

According to the Arms Export Control Act, only the State Department can authorize the export of weapons.  Every weapon that the multi-agency strike force made up mostly of Department of Justice and Homeland Security personnel sent over the Mexican border should equal a felony, for at least 2,020 felonies in Operation Fast and Furious alone.

Eric Holder’s December 8 agreement to appear in front of Congress under oath just got a lot more interesting.  Maybe after his trial Holder, can share a cell with Jerome Pendzich until we get him and Napolitano extradited to Mexico for the 200 plus counts of their being accessorys to murder.

 


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Holder’s days as attorney general may be numbered

Matthew Boyle is reporting that Attorney General Eric Holder’s tenure in the Obama administration may be coming to an end.  At least eight members of Congress have now called on Holder to resign over the growing Operation Fast and Furious scandal.

Republican Reps. Vicky Hartzler of Missouri, John Mica of Florida, Quico Canseco of Texas and Gus Bilirakis of Florida each told The Daily Caller on Thursday that they believe Holder should step down now.  The number of members of Congress calling for Holder to end his career in government because of Fast and Furious is now eight, a number which has doubled in one day.

Previously, Republican Reps. Joe Walsh of Illinois, Raul Labrador of Idaho, Blake Farenthold of Texas and Paul Gosar of Arizona called on Holder to resign.

A spokesperson for Mica, a powerful congressman who serves on the House oversight committee and chairs the House Transportation Committee, told TheDC that he "thinks Attorney General Holder should resign, for more than just the Fast and Furious operation mishandling."

Hartzler spokesman Steven Walsh said the congresswoman doesn’t think Holder is capable of leading the Justice Department after his flimsy May 3rd testimony before the House Judiciary Committee.

"Congresswoman Hartzler is of the opinion that documents pertaining to Fast and Furious call into question Attorney General Holder’s testimony before the House Judiciary Committee," Walsh said in an email.  "In particular, she is concerned with his testimony regarding knowledge of the timeline of the gun program.  Given the information we now have, she is of the opinion that Mr. Holder is not up to the task of advocating on behalf of the American people and should resign."

At that May 3rd hearing, Holder perjured himself, saying he had not learned of Operation Fast and Furious until a few weeks before -- even though Iowa GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley told TheDC he personally handed Holder an inquiry letter about the scandal months before.

 

Related:   Rep. Joe Walsh to Holder: "Resign immediately"

 


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Did "Big Sis" lay some big eggs before House Judiciary Committee?

Dave Workman says that under intense questioning Wednesday by Congressmen Darrell Issa and Trey Gowdy during a hearing before the House Judiciary Committee, Homeland Security Secretary seemed to weave, dodge, protest and perhaps demonstrate some ignorance about Operation Fast and Furious.

Later, when interviewed by Lou Dobbs on Fox News' business channel, both Issa and Gowdy expressed their frustration and disappointment at Napolitano’s performance.   Issa chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which has been holding hearings on Fast and Furious.

He seemed appalled at Napolitano’s responses to his questions, and there was no small amount of verbal combat between the Secretary and both Gowdy and Issa.  At one point, she suggested that Gowdy was trying to interrogate her.

Gowdy’s questioning of Napolitano began with a not-so-surprising inquiry.  After recalling that Napolitano had been both a state and federal prosecutor (prior to being Arizona governor and taking the appointment as DHS secretary), he simply asked:

"Did you ever approve or sanction investigations that allowed gunwalking?"

After a noticeable pause of several seconds, her response was:

"No, not to my knowledge."

The exchange went downhill from there.   Napolitano answered some questions about procedures as a federal prosecutor with candor, but then insisted that she would not "second-guess" about Fast and Furious because it is currently under investigation.  However, she did have this observation:

"What I would say is obviously there were problems with Fast and Furious."

A few hours later, Dobbs opened up his segment with Issa and Gowdy by noting,

"The Secretary seemed, at best at times, reluctant to answer questions."

Issa, who has been pushing for answers in the Fast and Furious investigation for almost ten months, expressed his amazement that Napolitano told the committee that she had not spoken directly with Attorney General Eric Holder specifically about the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.  He also described Napolitano’s demeanor thusly:
"She was testy, but most importantly, she didn’t have answers to important questions."
Issa and Senator Charles Grassley have been investigating the scandalous operation since January.  They have repeatedly complained about stonewalling and lack of cooperation by the Justice Department throughout the process.

Meanwhile, on Thursday, according to CBS News' Sharyl Attkisson, one of the handful of journalists who have been dogging this story for several months, the man who purchased one of the guns recovered at the murder scene of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata pleaded guilty to three of more than 20 charges related to gun trafficking.

The investigation, as this column reported, is expanding into Texas, where that gun was purchased at a Fort Worth gun show in October 2010.   This is not going away soon, and that much was clear when Issa told Dobbs:

"Until we get answers the American people can believe in; answers that show us this won’t happen again; answers to who is really going to be held responsible, not just scapegoats at the low level, we have to continue.  We will continue."


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I agree with Holder having to step down, it's just a matter of time.  Then he should be prosecuted to the FULLEST extent of the law including premeditated murder!  Once Holder steps down, we'll see the rest of the administration start to fall.  Probably with the "green" loans scandal that just keeps giving and giving.

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New evidence that Fast and Furious was a gun control plot

Doug Book says when Jim and Sarah Brady met with Barack Obama on the 30th anniversary of the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, they asked him how he would help to advance their Handgun Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) gun control/gun confiscation agenda.  Obama’s response: "I just want you to know that we are working on it.   We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."

In the seven months since that meeting, many have suggested Obama’s comment was a dark reference to the criminal Operation Fast and Furious.   After all, without the courage of ATF whistleblowers, the murderous and unconstitutional scheme would have probably remained "under the radar" to this day.

And now some very revealing information has been compiled by blogger Bob Owens to lend further credence to the belief that Fast and Furious had nothing to do with taking down Mexican drug cartels and everything to do with subverting the Second Amendment rights of the American people.

Over the years, a great deal has been learned of the firearm preferences of drug gangs.  And strangely enough, a scant few of the weapons purchased and  "walked"  south of the border by Fast and Furious operatives actually match the weapons-of-choice demands of Mexican cartels, the guns intended recipients.

But they do coincide quite nicely with the types of weapons whose availability American gun grabbers like Barack Obama have been most interested in limiting or doing away with altogether.

The majority of weapons transferred under Fast and Furious have been semi-automatic rifles of the AK and AR types with a few .50 caliber Barrett (BMG) rifles and FN (Five-SeveN) pistols thrown in for good measure.

More than 2000 of these weapons -- mainly the AK and AR rifle variants -- were walked across the Mexican border during the Operation.

Yet as popular as these AK and AR rifles are to gun buyers in the United States, Mexican gangs have virtually no interest in them at all.   Fully automatic or selective-fire AK rifles are available to cartels on the black market for about $100, far less than the purchase price of the semi-auto version in U.S. gun stores.

As for the AR models,  "cartels raid armories and buy selective-fire M-16 and M-4 rifles from deserting or corrupt Mexican military members for far less than the semi-auto rifles finding their way to cartels with federal government assistance…"

The .50 caliber rifle, though certainly powerful is also heavy, clumsy and often just a single shot weapon.  The big gun may enjoy a certain status among gang members, but daily use would be difficult at best.

So why did Operation Fast and Furious offer drug gangs so many firearms they did not want or need?   Because these are the weapons marked for extinction by American gun grabbers throughout the nation.

From championing the meaningless and ineffective  "assault weapons ban"  which forbade the sale of AK and AR type rifles to claiming that the .50 BMG could bring down a speeding jet, groups from the Brady Bunch to the far-Left, Obama-directed Joyce Foundation have worked to criminalize public ownership of these weapons.

And what better way to advance their agenda than to suddenly have hundreds, perhaps thousands of these guns appear at murder scenes throughout two countries?

By some estimates as many as 300 people have been killed in order that the gun-banning dreams of the Left might be realized.  Never has an administration engaged in a more thoroughly corrupt undertaking.  Prison is far too good for this unholy group.

 


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This White House, the Obama administration -- they were willing to kill

There is a memo somewhere linking Obama, Holder and top Dems according to the WH Insider. It's not only about gun control but also immigration.  Hopefully it will somehow end up in Issa's hands soon! and this...

If the Obama administration wasn’t really concerned about the actual guns – they lost over a thousand or so, right?  Can’t find them.  No idea where they went.  So those guns weren’t the concern.  It was the crime they wanted to trace back to those guns that were sold in the United States.  It was the crimes they wanted to happen – they fu—ing encouraged to happen – that was the purpose of all of this.  Turn around and use those crimes to push through much tougher federal gun controls, and push through some kind of amnesty immigration policy.  WE killed 200 Mexicans – that message…guilt voters into amnesty, right?  And I’m not opposed to some immigration policy – it’s needed, and long overdue.  But for God’s sake – I’m not for killing people to get there.  This White House was willing to do that.  Mexicans.  But they made a mistake…the killing of the border agents – they didn’t prepare to have those killings linked to the weapons.  Or if they did, they didn’t realize it would backfire against them like it did.

http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/11/07/white-house-insider-they-got-obamacare-%e2%80%93-now-they-want-the-2nd-amendment/



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U. S. Government May Be Primary Suppliers of Mexican Drug Cartel Guns

by Tom Stilson

posted at: http://biggovernment.com/tstilson/2011/11/21/u-s-government-may-be-primary-suppliers-of-mexican-drug-cartel-guns/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

With Operation Fast and Furious headlining the news, there is no doubt civilian arms have been trafficked into Mexico. However, many of the arms used by Mexican cartels are NOT supplied by civilian gun outlets in the United States. Based upon the statistics I have compiled, our State and Defense Departments may be the premier suppliers of weaponry to Mexican drug cartels — not the US civilian.

From 2003-2009, over 150,000 Mexican soldiers deserted from their ranks. Drug cartels became so confident in their recruitment of military personnel that they posted help wanted ads for hit men, traffickers, and guards. When these soldiers desert, their US-supplied weapons (grenades, sniper rifles, assault weapons, etc.) often accompany them over to the cartels. In 2008 and 2009, 13,792 and 20,530 small arms were exported to Mexico from the US. Over 92% of these arms were civilian legal semi-automatic or non-automatic firearms, a number eerily similar to the debunked 90% number echoed by the ATF. A 2008 State Department memo to then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi shows a $1,000,000 shipment of select fire M4A2 assault rifles to the Mexican Federal Police Force, (AKA Federales) one of the most corrupt Mexican government agencies.

The most recent numbers from 2010 show the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) — the State Department agency responsible for overseeing the exportation of military goods — authorized the transfer of 2.5 million units of small arms, weapon optics, silencers, and related components. In that same year, over 11 million units of ammunition and 127,000 units of explosive ordnance were cleared for exportation to Mexico. This amounted to $25 million worth of small arms, ammunition, and explosives shipped to Mexico authorized by our State Department.

In recent months, allegations have surfaced that the State Department’s US Direct Commercial Sales Program and DDTC may have directly shipped arms to the Zetas, the Gulf Cartel’s hit squad. The Zetas were at one time trained and supplied with American weaponry by our own 7th Special Forces Group in the early 1990s. These claims against the State Department arose even after the DDTC recognized the Americas Region in 2009 as having the highest rate of unfavorable traces for their Blue Lantern Program. The Blue Lantern Program involves traces performed by the DDTC to ensure exported military weaponry does not end up with an unauthorized nation or organization. For the Americas, 80% of traces where unauthorized end users were identified involved small arms. Data specifically for Mexico was unavailable from the State Department.

From 2008 to 2009, when President Obama entered office, Defense Department expenditures to Mexico have increased from $12 million to $34,000,000 and State Department expenditures increased from $7.2 million to $356 million. While 2010 data is currently unavailable, it appears our foreign aid to Mexico has continued to increase for 2011. These statistics imply the State and Defense Departments may very well be the top suppliers of small arms to Mexico’s drug cartels and not civilians. Only the information obtained from ATF Firearms Traces will tell.

However, those records are not public. After the DOJ and the White House knowingly pursued attempts at new gun control legislation, we are left to ask the question; is this just another case of government stupidity or is this something more premeditated?
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Obama cover-up?  Court records of border patrol agent murder sealed
 

Jim Kouri is reporting that the Obama Administration has suddenly and without warning sealed court records containing alarming details of how Mexican drug smugglers murdered a U.S. Border patrol agent with a gun connected to a federal government snafu that allowed firearms to be smuggled into Mexico, according to a top non-partisan organization that investigates government corruption and fraud.
 
This important information will now be kept from the public as well as the media by politicians who used a law enforcement agency for their political agenda, according to the blogger for Judicial Watch.

"Border Patrol agents are routinely fired for any sort of lie or failure to disclose everything they know under oath. Apparently, the same rules do not apply to the "top cop" in the country. Any agent would be fired for what [Eric] Holder did. Why is it that rank-and-file agents are held to such high standards while those in charge are held to such low standards? Shouldn't those in charge be setting the example?" -National Border Patrol Council

"Could this be a cover-up on the part of the “most transparent” administration in history? After all, the rifle used to kill the federal agent (Brian Terry) last December in Arizona’s Peck Canyon was part of the now infamous Operation Fast and Furious. Conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the disastrous scheme allowed guns to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels," the Judicial Watch blog stated.

Border Patrol agents are fired for "Lack of Candor" during any type of investigation. The agency has used this charge over and over again when they believe the agent knew something that they didn't divulge during questioning (as opposed to lying about it).

"Apparently these rules don't apply to Eric Holder, the supposed "top cop" who can say whatever he wants during sworn testimony. Any clear-minded individual who thinks that Eric Holder didn't know about an international gun-running operation that involved hundreds or thousands of weapons and agents of the United States needs to get a grip on reality," stated officials with the National Border Patrol Council.

It is simply absurd to think that this was just another investigation that Holder might vaguely remember coming across his desk. It involved too many heated international issues, and if Holder wasn't aware of every detail, as he claims, he should be fired for incompetence," said the border security professionals.

They also stated that Holder's testimony before Congress is disgusting on many levels. And now, the Justice Department has conveniently succeeded in sealing the court records of this case, which is despicable and un-American. We don't operate under some veil of secrecy in this country.

"Places like Iran and Russia do that. Shame on Eric Holder. The American people should not stand for this. The life of Brian Terry should stand for something," the NBPC officials stated.
  
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Instead of tracing the gun the federal law enforcement officers -- from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) -- lost track of more than 1,000 guns which allegedly were used in numerous crimes. In Agent Terry’s case, five illegal immigrants armed with at least two semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and Terry shot and killed.

"We know this only because Washington D.C.’s conservative newspaper [Washington Times] obtained the court documents before the government suddenly made them off limits. The now-sealed federal grand jury indictment tells the frightening story of how Terry was gunned down by Mexican drug smugglers patrolling the rugged desert with the intent to “intentionally and forcibly assault” Border Patrol agents," wrote the Judicial Watch blogger.

"You can see why the administration wants to keep this information from the public and the media, considering the smugglers were essentially armed by the U.S. government. Truth is, no one will know the reason for the confiscation of public court records in this case because the judge’s decision to seal it was also sealed, according to the news story. That means the public or media won’t have access to any new or old evidence, filings, rulings or arguments," the JW blogger explained.

A number of high-ranking Border Patrol officials are questioning how the case is being handled. For instance, they wonder why the suspected killer Manuel Osorio-Arellanes hasn’t been tried even though it’s been almost a year since Terry’s murder.

Border Patrol officials also have concerns about the lack of transparency in the investigation, not to mention the recent sealing of the court case.

Osorio-Arellanes is charged with second-degree murder. The four other drug smugglers fled the scene and their names were blacked out in the indictment. In 2006 Osorio-Arellanes had been convicted in Phoenix of felony aggravated assault and in 2010 he was twice detained for being in the U.S. illegally.

During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing this month to address the flawed gun-tracking program, Attorney General Eric Holder said it’s not fair to assume that mistakes in Operation Fast and Furious led to Terry’s death. Holder also expressed regret to the federal agent’s family, saying that he can only imagine their pain, but stopped short of apologizing for the Fast and Furious fiasco or for its connection to the killing of a brave law enforcement officer.
   


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Holder’s DoJ retaliated against "Fast And Furious" whistle-blowers
 

 
Breitbart is reporting that the employees of the Justice Department who testified to Congress about the notorious "Fast and Furious" program claim that they have been punished by the department while the people most responsible for the program have been rewarded.

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And BREAKING NEWS on F&F at BigGovermnet...Obama knew about it in 2010.

Ummm, probably closer to 2009, like we've mentioned here a few times!!!
Ogden - March 24, 2009

Napolitano March 2009

ATF slideshow from 2010 to the DOJ regarding F&F

not to mention all of the documents, emails and hand written notes that Holder said he never saw.

These whistleblowers need better protection from this administration!!!




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Justice dept details how it got statements wrong. 

What would have happened if one of the proletariat had lied, multiple times, to Congress?

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