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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/just-abolish-the-bureau-of-alcohol-tobacco-and-firearms-already/

Just Abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Already 

The report offered few new revelations and seemed pretty much useless — much like the ATF itself.

About the only value of the 211-page document released today is that it clearly spells out the reasons why the ATF’s days should be numbered, revealing a level of gross incompetence, neglect of oversight, and bureaucratic ineptitude that should outrage us all. The two planned follow-on Congressional reports will deal more directly with the Department of Justice’s role and the allegations of a cover-up that continue to plague Attorney General Eric Holder.

Why shouldn’t we just abolish the ATF?

There seem to be many arguments in favor of this proposition, and very few against it.

In mere concept, the ATF is bothersome. Any organization devoted to criminal prosecutions based on the regulation of otherwise legal substances should make us uneasy. People tend to forget this now, but the ATF’s tentacles extend far and wide because of the unrestrained statist monster that is the interstate Commerce Clause in the post Wickard vs. Filburn era.

This has meant that that the federal government can regulate alcohol, tobacco, and firearms as much as it wants — well beyond the original intent of the Constitution — and it already has its enforcers in place in the form of ATF agents.

Add to this the fact that the ATF’s proclivity for overreaching enforcement goes back as far as the organization itself. For those of us who prefer limited government and the absolute minimum of bureaucratic intrusion into our lives, the ATF’s history is one long cautionary tale. It has bounced around under the umbrella of larger federal agencies, including the IRS and the Treasury department (where it collected taxes on liquor) and helped enforce Prohibition.  Once you add Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Fast and Furious catastrophes onto the heap, you have a pretty compelling case for ATF dissolution.

And let’s not forget the cost issue. These days most Americans seem to agree that budgets matter. The 5,000 employees and billion dollar price tag of the ATF is small by behemoth government agency standards, but federal cuts have to start somewhere, and setting a precedent that unnecessary agencies can in fact be eliminated could have ripple effects across the government.

Sounds good to me!  It would be an Epic Defeat for the Obamunists!

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From the Blaze:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/will-this-new-fast-and-furious-revelation-force-holder-to-resign-take-our-poll/

Do you think the new report will force Attorney General Eric Holder to resign?

Yes
 17.36%  (2,234 votes) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Total Votes: 12,866

Less than 1% support Holder and the BATF?  Very interesting.
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Five ATF employees resposible for Fast and Furious' debacle

William LaJeunesse and Laura Prabuki are reporting that Congressional Republican investigators have singled out five employees in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to blame for the botched anti-gunrunning operation known as Fast and Furious, in a report on the scandal obtained by Fox News.
 
The report, the first of three to be issued from the congressional investigation, concludes that the five employees were responsible for an operation "marred by missteps, poor judgments and inherently reckless strategy." All five have since been reassigned but remain employed in the agency.
 
The findings, first reported by the Los Angeles Times, put additional pressure on the Obama administration in an ongoing battle over what higher-level officials knew, if anything, about the ATF operation.
 
For more than a year, Republicans have been leading an investigation into Fast and Furious, which was launched in Arizona in late 2009 by ATF, with help from the U.S. attorney's office there. The operation's targets bought nearly 2,000 weapons over several months. But for reasons that are still in dispute, most of the weapons sold were never followed, and high-powered weapons tied to the investigation ended up at crime scenes in Mexico and the United States, including the December 2010 murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
 
The Republican-led House voted late in June to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt, but Justice officials since then essentially have said the ball is still in Republicans' court, if they intend to follow through with vows to file a civil lawsuit seeking the remaining documents.
 
The congressional investigative report, to be issued Tuesday, specifically faults Acting Director Kenneth Melson; Deputy Director William Hoover; William Newell, special agent in charge of the Phoenix Field Division; William McMahon, deputy assistant director for field operations, and Mark Chait, assistant director for field operations.
 
Melson told investigators he felt the Justice Department was making him a scapegoat for the operation's failure.
 
"I think they were doing more damage control than anything," he testified, as quoted in the investigative report. "My view is that the whole matter of the department's response in this case was a disaster."
 
The congressional investigators noted that Melson "was concerned that Fast and Furious did not end sooner", but they also faulted him for never ordering it to be shut down.
 
The report faults Hoover for knowing Newell had employed "risky tactics" but allowing them to continue. Chait, for his part "paid a surprisingly passive role during the operation," while McMahon seemed to be nothing more than a "rubber stamp" for field operations, the report concludes.
 
The two other reports being prepared for release will focus more on the Justice Department's oversight role in the operation and its dealings with congressional investigators. Republicans have suggested Justice officials have resorted to political stonewalling in an attempt to cover up the truth, while administration officials have described the Republican investigation as a witch hunt.
 
But several Democrats joined House Republicans in voting for the contempt resolutions after Holder failed to give congressional investigators documents in response to a subpoena last year. Meetings in the run-up to the vote failed to reach a compromise, after President Obama asserted executive privilege over the documents.
 
Specifically, the documents at issue are mostly composed of internal Justice Department emails after Feb. 4, 2011, when department officials realized they would have to retract a letter to Congress that denied Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents ever let guns fall into the hands of suspected criminals.
 
In one email from early 2011, described to Fox News, Holder told subordinates: "We need answers on this. Not defensive BS. Real answers." The email was among several shown in two separate meetings with House Republicans and Democrats last week.
 
The chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., has said it is "critically important" to obtain the post-Feb. 4, 2011, documents at issue because, among other things, they could show whether top officials were "surprised or were already aware" about so-called "gunwalking" in Fast and Furious when confronted with new information. In essence, Republicans say the documents could show whether the false letter was part of a "cover-up."
 
In a hearing before the contempt votes, Issa insisted Holder offered "to provide subpoenaed documents only if the committee agrees in advance to close the investigation," adding, "No investigator would ever agree to that."
 
But Justice Department officials have disputed that account. A Justice Department official insisted last month the documents at issue "show no intention or attempt to conceal information or mislead (Congress)."
 
Nevertheless, Boehner has said that a civil lawsuit to obtain the documents would be pursued.


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Obama's focus is to keep criminals away from guns except when it gives guns to criminals

Westerm Free Press says Obama’s administration needs to work on its communication. Today, Jay Carney said that the Obama Administration’s focus is “to keep criminals and others who should not have those guns, from being able to obtain them.” Memos must not get sent to the right people, or maybe they are sent but are just overlooked.

It was December 2010 when conservative bloggers were trying to get national recognition of the Fast and Furious Scandal. With the murder of ATF Agent Brian Terry came a justifiable outrage for not only bungling a dangerous case, but also for not disclosing any of the documents explaining who was involved and how deeply they were involved. The Department of Justice was directly involved with knowingly allowing criminals to obtain dangerous weapons in an attempt to track the guns to drug cartels purchasing them.

The initial reaction of the scandal was so damning that the ATF Chief, Kenneth Melson, resigned. In an attempt to further investigate, Congress held hearings with some of President Obama’s top administrators. The stonewalling was so bad that Congress voted to hold the United States Attorney General in contempt for the first time in history. Prior to the vote, President Obama invoked executive privilege regarding documents dealing with the Fast and Furious investigation.

When Jay Carney says that the administration is trying to keep weapons out of criminals’ hands by enforcing existing laws, how can Americans trust what he is saying? At what point do voters concede that something must be wrong with the President and his administration? Citizens can at least hope that these mistakes were mistakes from ineptitude. Though, given other examples from the President’s tenure, it seems more likely to be caused by corruption.


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Reward offered for White House Fast & Furious information

The Washington Examiner is reporting that one of the nation's oldest conservatives group is offering whistleblowers a $100,000 reward for information from the White House and Justice Department on the "Fast & Furious" administration gun-running bungle.

The Conservative Caucus told Secrets that it believes that the scandal which led to the death of a U.S. Border Control agent is a potential Watergate.
 
Their reward poster reads: "If you have verifiable evidence that President Obama or one of his aides knew about Operation Fast & Furious while it was underway, Call 1-888-692-7374 toll free. This is your opportunity to save yourself before Operation Fast & Furious comes crashing down like Watergate. Don't go to jail. Turn states evidence now just like John Dean did. The truth will come out. Will you be caught in the web of Operation Fast & Furious, or will you avoid jail time?"
 
Peter Thomas, who heads the grass roots conservative group formed by Howard Phillips in 1974, said "We felt forced to run this advertisement and offer the $100,000 reward because justice was not being served, and we wanted to offer an opportunity to anyone who knows the truth to save yourself before Operation Fast & Furious comes crashing down like Watergate; to make the right choice now."
 
Congress recently held Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt, claiming that he was stonewalling Republican demands for more information about the affair, which has become politically explosive in border states.
 
The group is running this ad in Wednesday's Washington Times.
 
It will take $1 million to lure out a whistleblower, but I like the tactic.


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that is soooooo   criminal of our DHS and INS, WH....  they all ought to be HUNG, especially Ms. Napolitano and Holder and Obama for forcing that to become a disguisting whim for our fighting men and their protection.   Or better yet, put them in front of a firing squad with a rifle loaded with bena bags themselves and see how fast they go down.  WHat is good for the goose, (Terry)   should be good for the Ganders,  HOLDER, OBAMA & NAPOLITANO  

THIS MAKES ME WANT TO THROW UP, I am horrified that our WH and DHS, INS has so LITTLE RESPECT FOR OUR PEOPLE IN THE SERVICE for the protection OF OUR COUNTRY........  and has anyone noticed that there has been NO Media attention to this matter at all!!!!   I am sooooo disguisted by Obama and his murderous creeps around him that I really wish..........

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White House admits Brian Terry was shooting beanbags

Jim Hoft is reporting that US Border Agent Brian Terry was shooting beanbags at cartel members before they shot him dead with assault rifles. (Truth about Guns)

For the first time the Obama Administration today admitted that Brian Terry and fellow border agents were firing beanbags and not bullets during their shootout with armed cartel members.

FOX News reported, via Free Republic:

For the first time, federal officials revealed Monday that murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and an elite squad of federal agents first fired bean bags — not bullets — at a heavily armed drug cartel crew in the mountains south of Tucson in December 2011.

The announcement came as the Department of Justice unsealed an indictment charging five individuals allegedly involved in Terry’s death. A sixth suspect has also been charged in a related incident.

The U.S. is also offering a reward of up to $1 million for information leading to the arrest of four outstanding suspects believed to hiding out in Mexico. The names of the four suspects were revealed, and their pictures released, to the public. Police in the US and in Mexico are cooperating and under intense pressure to find them.

 Roark adds:

“Disarmed by the very bureaucrats that armed their killers.”


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If he turns himself in, does he get the 1M$??
 
Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday unsealed the indictment charging five people with crimes in connection with the Operation Fast and Furious-related murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
 
Holder is already in criminal and civil contempt of Congress for withholding documents related to the Operation Fast and Furious scandal that armed the Mexican drug cartel criminals who murdered Agent Terry.
 
Holder is offering a $1 million reward to anyone who helps the FBI with “information leading to the arrest of four fugitives.” The fifth person charged with Terry’s killing – and a sixth who was connected with that crime but has already been charged with a lesser crime – have been in custody since December 2010.
 
“According to the indictment, Manuel Osorio-Arellanes, Jesus Rosario Favela-Astorga, Ivan Soto-Barraza, Heraclio Osorio-Arellanes and Lionel Portillo-Meza are charged with crimes including first degree murder, second degree murder, conspiracy to interfere with commerce by robbery, attempted interference with commerce by robbery, use and carrying a firearm during a crime of violence, assault on a federal officer and possession of a firearm by a prohibited person,” a press release announcing the indictment’s unsealing reads. “A sixth defendant, Rito Osorio-Arellanes, is charged only with conspiracy to interfere with commerce by robbery.”
 
“The 11-count third superseding indictment, which was handed up by a federal grand jury in the District of Arizona on Nov. 7, 2011, alleges that on Dec. 14, 2010, five of the defendants (Manuel Osorio-Arellanes, Jesus Rosario Favela-Astorga, Ivan Soto-Barraza, Heraclio Osorio-Arellanes and Lionel Portillo-Meza) engaged in a firefight with Border Patrol agents,” the release continues. “During the exchange of gunfire, Agent Terry was shot and killed. The indictment alleges that the defendants had illegally entered the United States from Mexico for the purpose of robbing drug traffickers of their contraband. In addition to the murder of Agent Terry, the indictment also alleges that the five defendants assaulted Border Patrol Agents William Castano, Gabriel Fragoza and Timothy Keller, who were with Agent Terry during the firefight.”
 
“The indictment is being unsealed today in order to seek the public’s assistance in locating the fugitive defendants,” the statement adds.
 
Holder is quoted in the statement too, saying he thinks “Agent Terry served his country honorably and made the ultimate sacrifice in trying to protect it from harm, and we will stop at nothing to bring those responsible for his murder to justice.”
 
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Fast and Furious plan backfires

Deroy Murdock says the American people finally have heard of Brian Terry. He is the best-known victim of Fast and Furious, an Obama administration conventional-weapons proliferation program. Between November 2009 and January 2011, Team Obama arranged for licensed firearms dealers to sell guns to straw buyers, who transferred them to known violent criminals in Mexico. Among these firearms, two AK-47s were found near Rio Rico, Arizona, where suspected smugglers fatally shot Terry, a 40-year-old former Marine, on December 15, 2010.
 
While Brian Terry epitomizes those whom Fast and Furious has harmed, he is not its sole casualty.
 
U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata, 32, was shot mortally in San Luis Potosi, Mexico. Members of Los Zetas drug gang also ambushed ICE Agent Victor Avila, although not fatally. This Feb. 15, 2011 assault involved a rifle purchased in Dallas in another Obama administration "gunwalking" escapade.

Largely overlooked is this plan’s calamitous impact on Mexico, its people and U.S.-Mexican relations.
 
"Our federal government knowingly, willfully, purposefully gave the drug cartels nearly 2,000 weapons -- mainly AK-47s -- and allowed them to walk," Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) told NBC News. These arms were supposed to lead federal agents in Phoenix to the Mexican thugs who acquired them. Instead, Fast and Furious guns melted into Mexico.
 
Approximately 300 Mexicans have been killed or wounded by Fast and Furious guns, estimates former Mexican attorney general Victor Humberto Benitez Trevino. Relevant details are scarce. However, at least one case generated enormous headlines ... in Mexico. Here is what happened, according to a July 26, 2011 report by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa).
 
On Oct. 21, 2010, Sinaloa drug cartel members kidnapped Mario Gonzalez, brother of Chihuahua state’s then-Attorney General Patricia Gonzalez. A video promptly emerged showing Mario in handcuffs, surrounded by five armed, masked captors. That Nov. 5, his tortured body was discovered in a shallow grave. Mexican police soon nabbed his suspected kidnappers in a shootout. Among 16 weapons seized along with eight of these hoodlums, serial numbers confirm that two were Fast and Furious guns. These also were tied to the kidnappings of two people.
 
Fast and Furious guns have befouled at least 200 crime scenes. Among them:
 
•  Members of the La Familia drug gang fired at a Mexican Federal Police helicopter on May 24, 2011, wounding three officers and forcing an emergency landing in Michoacan, western Mexico. Five days later, four more helicopters attacked La Familia. They returned fire, striking all four choppers and injuring another two government agents. The police prevailed, killing 11 cartel members and arresting 36 -- including those suspected of targeting the first chopper. Mexican authorities say La Familia possessed heavy-duty body armor and 70 rifles, including several Fast and Furious weapons.
 
•  Two weapons purchased by Fast and Furious targets were recovered in Sonora on July 1, 2010 and tied to a "Homicide/Willful Kill -- Gun," the U.S. Justice Department declared last Sept. 9.
 
•  Two Fast and Furious guns were linked to a February 2010 assassination conspiracy against Baja California’s then-Police Chief Julian Leyzaola.
 
•  Four Fast and Furious guns were found on Jan. 8, 2010 and connected to a "kidnap/ransom."
 
•  Eleven Fast and Furious firearms were discovered in Atoyac de Alvarez after Mexican soldiers saved a kidnap victim on Nov. 14, 2009.
 
Team Obama’s defenders correctly argue that Bush administration investigators distributed some 450 guns in Mexico. But there are several key differences: No known deaths pertain to Operation Wide Receiver. Many of its weapons (unlike most Fast and Furious guns) featured radio-tracking devices. Also, Mexico’s government knew about and supported Wide Receiver.
 
In contrast, Issa and Grassley observed, "ATF and DOJ leadership kept their own personnel in Mexico and Mexican government officials totally in the dark about all aspects of Fast and Furious."
 
"Fast and Furious has poisoned the well-spring of public opinion in Mexico as it relates to the cooperation and engagement with the United States," Mexico’s envoy to America, Ambassador Arturo Sarukhan, declared May 31.

Issa and Grassley concluded that 1,048 of these weapons "remain unaccounted for." Unlike carrier pigeons, these Fast and Furious guns will not fly safely home. Instead, for years to come, they will keep drawing blood in Mexico -- and points north.
 
Related:  NRA President on differences between "Wide Receiver" and "Fast and Furious" -- video


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Backing up to post #205 & Pepe Cardona & his brothers in Chicago. (sorry been life busy for a few days.)

I read that article and had the same thinking at the time.  As I was here typing up  a notice about it and thinking and reading again, I thought to myself that that's too much of a stretch and I'm just over thinking things so I deleted it.  Guess I wasn't the only one though.  Everything always goes back to Chicago....


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The arrogance of this administration is absolutely astounding......  

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. sharply criticized lawmakers Monday for voting to hold him in contempt of Congress last week, saying Republicans have made him a “proxy” to attack President Obama in an election year.

 “I’ve become a symbol of what they don’t like about the positions this Justice Department has taken,” he said. “I am also a proxy for the president in an election year. You have to be exceedingly naive to think that vote was about . . . documents.”  

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Like I stated on the other Fast & Furious page:
"Jaw droping blatant lies....... I heard the same interview on FOX Sunday News show this morning, maybe not the same interviewer, but the same canned replys/talking points."
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Obama Chief-of-Staff goes on national television and stone cold LIES

BigFurHat says when Jack Lew was asked why Obama has implemented executive privilege in order to block a congressional effort to have Fast and Furious become transparent, Lew chose to answer the question by saying, "let’s go back to the facts..." ... and immediatly got his "facts" wrong.

Lew claimed Fast and Furious started during the Bush administration. That assertion is false.  Obama took office in January 2009, and Operation Fast and Furious started in March 2009.  Lew also went on to defend Attorney General Eric Holder by saying this was a "regional program."  If that was the case, then why is executive privilege necessary or valid in this case?  Either the documents requested show some kind of White House communication or Obama improperly asserted the privilege to buy Holder more time.  Lew also said "every document related to the decisions up to that point has been shared," which is also false.  There are 240,000 Fast and Furious documents available.  The Justice Department has turned over 7,000.  Of those 7,000 the majority are sheets of black ink due to extreme redaction.  In relation to specific communications, just before the Oversight Committee contempt vote two weeks ago to hold the Attorney General in contempt, Chairman Darrell Issa narrowed his focus from 70,000 documents to 1300, yet Holder still failed to deliver anything substantial.  Not to mention, 21 Democrats voted for civil contempt against Holder last week, which destroys Lew’s "political" argument.
 
And finally: Lew said the Obama administration has been the most transparent administration ever.
 
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Something is really, really, really not right here

Greta Van Susteren says The New York Times has a really bizarre story on the front page today.  I will make some remarks about the story and then there is a link at the bottom for you to read the entire story.  I don’t want to run wild with crazy conspiracy stories but there are some really peculiar parts of this New York Time story that warrants further investigation.
 
First some bullet points:
 
* Juan Jose Rojas Cardona (“Pepe” and hereinafter I will refer to him as that) lives in Mexico and is part of the casino business (known as Mexico’s casino czar) with a very shady background and record.  He is linked to violence and corruption in Mexico.   According to a State Department cable in 2009, he was suspected of orchestrating the assassination of a business rival and making illegal campaign donations to Mexican officials;
 
* Pepe is wanted in the USA for state charges in Iowa going back to the early 1990′s.  After his Iowa conviction in the early 90′s, he was sentenced to 5 years but then he jumped bail on the Iowa conviction.
 
* Pepe surfaced a bit later, while a bail jumper from Iowa, in New Mexico and got in more trouble – this time with the Feds.  He pleaded guilty in 1994 to Federal Drug charges.  While on bail for THAT plea of guilty to Federal charges, he disappeared again.  He later surfaced in Mexico (where he got into the casino business and where he was later accused of illegal campaign donations and orchestrating an assassination.)
 
*  THE STRANGEST THING HAPPENED IN 1998 – 4 years after his plea of guilty to Federal charges.  I have never seen this happen before — Federal Prosecutors, even though Pepe had jumped bail a second time (and thus avoiding prison) and was in Mexico beyond their reach, went to a Federal Judge and convinced the Judge to quash the indictment.  Quash an indictment of a Federal felon who was on the run?  I have never seen prosecutors do that.  Why would they, after a plea of guilty to Federal charges, ask a Judge to dismiss the indictment?  Ordinarily, the prosecutors would be doing the opposite.  They would be begging the Justice Department to put pressure on the host country – here Mexico – to turn the fleeing felon over.  Something is very odd about this.
 
* Out of the blue, beginning last fall, Pepe’s brothers, who live in Chicago, became big fundraisers for President Obama – achieving what is called the ‘bundler’ status.  In total, the family gave to the President and the DNC about $200,000 in legal donations.  What is odd about this is that no one had heard of the brothers before in political circles and then just suddenly showed up and they were raising money in big, big ways. [Note that since the NYT started sniffing around about Pepe's family's donations, the Obama campaign has said it will return the donations.]
 
Now here is where I may be taking this way too far and just having a wild imagination day….but, I have never been able to figure out this war in Mexico and why it gets so little attention from the Obama Administration (and perhaps the Bush Administration before.)  I know many have pointed out that President Calderone has declared war on the cartels but the problem of cartels sure does not get better….in fact, it gets worse.   Maybe the crisis is impossible to solve?  The number of deaths in Mexico from the war is huge.  The violence is unthinkable – beheadings with the heads left behind to intimidate and scare, copes and prosecutors gunned down,  innocents murdered and kidnapped etc and the violence even extending to parts of Mexico where Americans thought safe to vacation.  I am curious (and this is where my imagination begins to travel) whether Pepe is a big political donor to Calderone …and is Calderon’s administration giving him a safe haven in Mexico?  And of course I could never figure out why President Obama and President Calderone both rebuked Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when she said 2 years ago that Mexico is like Colombia of 20 years ago.  Why were both President Calderone and President Obama so hot under the collar about that description? Frankly, Mexico IS like Colombia of 20 years ago — maybe even worse.   In reading the foregoing, read with caution since this is only my imagination – I have no hard facts.  Facts are very different from imagination.
 
But of course the real weird part is the Federal Prosecutors getting an indictment quashed AFTER a PLEA of guilty and AFTER the guy has jumped bail and fled the country.  I have never seen prosecutors be so…well…generous?  It is weird.  This is not my imagination but my experience.   Prosecutors just don’t do this.  Something is odd..
 
Over at The Ulsterman Report, a commenter had this to say:

  • America the beautiful
  • Let’s consider adding up a few loose and apparently unconnected strands that may be well connected…. Or not…but — Let’s connect them:

    *the questionable donations — the Feds wanted facts on certain campaign donations to Obama via Federal Election Commission Laws that have yet to be answered for…remember, Obama claimed to have had voluminous $25.00 donations yet that assertion turned out to be completely false.

    * the Chicago Rojas drug family as campaign donations Bundler and in particular bundler/donor to Obama campaign ….has Feds drop guilty plea AND receives safe haven in Mexio under Calderone while other Rohas family members remain in Chicago gearing up to bundle donations and More…

    * Where is Patrick Fitzgerald in all this.
    ..Look who appointed Fitzgerald…who else did this serve…who else was in this loop??

    *Calderone complains of guns crossing into Mexico right on cue (remember Kabuki)…he plays his part to help Obama destroy the 2nd amendment, a small favor in exchange for a laundry facility with wide open borders for “direct commerce” of drug sales into the USA

    * Fast and Furious may be so much more than a gun operation to remove 2nd amendment constitutional rights from the people…it may be that the Obama administration is laundering (for a %) the drug cartels money..Shore Bank, First California, Shore Bank International are Obama/Holder money laundering outlets –with the Rohas drug family in Chicago–close to Shore Bank

    *Consider — were our Feds so corrupted by the cash at the border and by cartels and our own Holder Justice Department, that they willingly sent guns without GPS as part of the huge cartels payoffs made it as worthwhile—- as the cops or any other officials can be bought off… is that why Fast and Furious was first known as Operation Direct Commerce (that name since scrubbed from the net). Also remember that whistler blower Agent Dodson and his complete and utter confusion as to what was happening and though told to stand down–stayed for days as a lone lookout before being threatened by his superior–only after Border Agent Terry’s death did he go to Congressional authorities– however until GOP and Daryle Issa took the house in 2010 could there be any investigation as the Dems had put a freeze on it… See Frank Miniter’s article in Forbes 12/7/2011 “Inside President Obama’s War on the Fast and Furious Whistleblowers.”

    * First California Bank is another money laundering facility so corrupt they simply send a warning shot over Feinstein’s head as they steal 5 Million dollars from her ( and it may be so much more) bank accounts.

    *Note today’s paradigm change — with Axelrod and Obama now embracing the “evil PAC’s” that last year had Obama apoplectic at the State of the Union as he bizarrely lost his composure with the Supreme Court …deriding the justices for giving rights to corporations …now able to give donations to the party of their choice ….thus destroying Obama’s leverage on campaign cash flow…. .and with Wall Street now turning their backs on Obama and refusing to bundle for him– how does he hide where all that cash is flowing from — as he no longer has the Wall Street big money screen to hide behind… Where does he now claim all that money cames from?
    Wonder who actually wrote those recent $38,500. per plate checks in New York last week? We’re those tickets prepaid and simply handed out?

    ***Makes one wonder if the Wall Street bail-outs had as much to do with certain forces knowing their “donations” were actually being supplied for them….Funny thing…Black Mail works in both directions ….hence, big bail outs and big bonus’ regardless of the pious speeches from big mouth

    * Jack Wheeler IV was not just a WMD or Chem warfare specialist…he was also a banking/Sec specialist for the US government …for many years.

    Where are all those savvy investigative reporters…someone who could put the financial/ criminal picture together… …Unfortunately there are few like Mark Pittman…
    Bob Ivy? Greta has put out a fishing line…

    * it’s not just the money, it’s not just the drugs, it’s not just the cooperation of Calderone, it’s not just the evil partnership with the drug cartels, it’s not just the US banks laundering the monies…It is the capture of our flag by seditious forces within our own government.


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ATF’s Fast and Furious coverup exposed
 
John Hinderaker says Darrell Issa and Charles Grassley have been releasing documents that they have obtained in connection with the Fast and Furious investigation. I have not yet seen a site where the documents are actually published, so we have to rely on news accounts of them. If any of our readers are aware of a location where we can read them for ourselves, we would appreciate hearing about it.

In the meantime, the Daily Caller has an interesting story about ATF’s retaliation against the whistleblowers who exposed the Fast and Furious scandal:

House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa and Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley are asking the Department of Justice’s internal investigator to hold accountable anyone who retaliated against or threatened to retaliate against Operation Fast and Furious whistleblowers. …

“We just learned that ATF senior management placed two of the main whistleblowers who have testified before Congress about Fast and Furious under the supervision of someone who vowed to retaliate against them,” they wrote before describing how senior political figures have made dangerous threats before.

Grassley and Issa said that in early 2011, right around the time Grassley first made public the whistleblowers’ allegations about Fast and Furious, Scot Thomasson – then the chief of the ATF’s Public Affairs Division – said, according to an eyewitness account: “We need to get whatever dirt we can on these guys [the whistleblowers] and take them down.”

That is, sadly, a pretty typical bureaucratic response, one of many reasons why we should not entrust our government with too much power. The documents that Issa and Grassley have released, and that the Daily Caller has reviewed, indicate that ATF was planning its Fast and Furious coverup even before Grassley and Issa started asking for information about the program. The ATF instructed its employees as to how they should respond to anticipated questions, including this one:

We understand that a firearm bought in connection with this ATF investigation was used to murder Border Patrol Agent Brian A. Terry. Can you please comment on this information?

Well, that is definitely a good question. ATF’s management suggested the following answer, among others:

Agent Terry’s death is the exact reason why we must continue going after those who are determined to destroy the lives of so many innocent individuals in our communities by plying their illicit trade. For those who would say it is Mexico’s problem, I say Agent Terry’s death and all of those who have perished because of this violence prove that this challenge belongs to everyone.

Sick. Here is another suggested response:

The investigation into the murder of Agent Terry is active and ongoing. ATF has pledged its support and resources to bring to justice the perpetrators who are guilty of that crime. I won’t say anything here today to jeopardize that investigation or the subsequent prosecution of those responsible for this terrible crime.

Right, like acknowledging that the murder weapons were guns that the U.S. government insisted that law-abiding gun shops sell to straw purchasers in violation of the law, which were then allowed to make their way to the Mexican cartels while American law enforcement was instructed not to arrest anyone or otherwise try to stop the flow of weapons. That is what ATF wanted to make sure its employees didn’t tell anyone who asked inconvenient questions about Brian Terry’s murder.

This was a coverup, plain and simple, and the coverup continues today, spearheaded by Barack Obama and Eric Holder under a frivolous claim of executive privilege. In this case, “executive privilege” means “Let’s just keep this damned thing under wraps until after the election. Then, who cares?”


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Obama contributor who helped enact Assault-Weapons Ban, ran "Fast and Furious"

Fred Lucas is reporting that Dennis K. Burke, who as a lawyer for the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee in the 1990s was a key player behind the enactment of the 1994 assault-weapons ban, and who then went on to become Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano’s chief of staff, and a contributor to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential primary campaign, and then a member of Obama's transition team focusing on border-enforcement issues, ended up in the Obama administration as the U.S. attorney in Arizona responsible for overseeing Operation Fast and Furious.

When Obama nominated Burke to be U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona, Burke told the Arizona Capitol Times he believed he understood what the president and his attorney general wanted him to do.

“There’s clearly been direction provided already by President Obama and Attorney General Holder as to what they want to be doing, and this is an office that is at the center of the issues of border enforcement,” said Burke.

Over the course of several days, CNSNews.com left multiple telephone messages with Burke for comment on this story. He did not respond.

Dennis K. Burke has had a long career working as an aide and political appointee to Democratic elected officials. From 1989 to 1994, he was a counsel for the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee, working in that capacity for several years on an assault-weapons ban, which was finally enacted on Sept. 13, 1994 as the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act. That act expired on Sept. 13, 2004. (See NYT: Dennis Burke, Sen. DeConcini, Weapons Ban.pdf)

From 1994-95, Burke served in the Clinton Justice Department in the Office of Legislative Affairs, and in 1997-99, he was an assistant U.S. attorney in Arizona.

From 1999 to 2003, Burke was chief deputy and special assistant to Arizona Attorney General Janet Napolitano.

In 2003, when Napolitano became governor, Burke became her chief of staff. He stayed in that job until the fall of 2008, when he left to help Democratic political campaigns, including then-Sen. Obama’s presidential campaign.

Federal Election Commission (FEC) records show that on Jan. 9, 2008, while working as Gov. Napolitano’s chief of staff, Burke contributed $2,000 to then-Sen Obama’s presidential primary campaign. Since 1997, according to FEC records, Burke has contributed a total of $16,350 to various Democratic candidates.

After Obama was elected in November 2008, Burke joined his presidential transition team, serving on the Immigration Policy Working Group.

Eight days before Obama’s inauguration, on Jan. 12, 2009--while Burke was working on the transition team--Obama met with Mexican President Felipe Calderon at the Mexican Cultural Institute in Washington, D.C. At that meeting, Obama “pledged” to take action to stop the flow of guns from the United States to Mexico.

Obama also decided to put Burke’s old boss, incoming Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, in a leadership role in making the gun-trafficking problem a top priority.

“President-elect Obama expressed support for efforts in the border states in both the United States and Mexico to eradicate drug-related violence and stop the flow of guns and cash,” incoming White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement at the time. “He told President Calderón that he intends to ask the Secretary of Homeland Security to lead an effort to increase information sharing to strengthen those efforts. He pledged to take more effective action from the United States to stem the flow of arms from the United States to Mexico.”

When Napolitano became Homeland Security secretary, Burke moved from the Obama transition team to become her senior adviser. On Feb. 25, 2009, a little more than a month after Obama had made his “pledge” to Calderon, Napolitano testified in the House Homeland Security Committee. She stressed that stopping the flow of guns to Mexico was a top priority of the Obama administration and key focus of her work.

There's much more here -- including Burke's congressional testimony . . .


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A good link to share  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-5-biggest-differences-between-operation-fast-and-furious-and-operation-wide-receiver/
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I watched it live, it was great.

Visibly unhappy about tomorrow’s scheduled contempt vote against Attorney General Eric Holder, MSNBC’s Rev. Al Sharpton invited Rep. John Micah (R-Fla.) onto his show Wednesday only to call him a “conspiracy” theorist and shout over him as he answered questions about federal gun-walking operations “Fast and Furious” and “Wide Receiver.”

Sharpton began by asking Micah about previous statements he made about Fast and Furious being invented to impose stricter gun regulations and whether he thought the Obama administration was “hoping” for the resulting gun violence. Micah replied no, but stood by his assertion that the federal government was trying to find a way to increase gun control and blame drug cartel violence on guns sold in the U.S.

The Reverend then asked whether or not the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee believed Holder had specific knowledge about the gunrunning that took place and claimed the committee’s chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) had said the attorney general was not aware of the program.

What Issa actually said is that there is no evidence proving Holder or President Obama knew about the operation one way or another because the requested documents have not been turned over to Congress.

Micah echoed Issa, saying there was no way to determine how much knowledge Holder had because he has refused to provide the documents requested under a Congressional subpoena. Somehow, Sharpton interpreted his reply as an admission of the attorney general’s innocence and asked, “Well, then why are you trying to hold him in contempt if he may be innocent?”

Here is the link

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Some exerpts from Ann Coulter's column today:

The Biggest Scandal In U S History

Administration officials intentionally put guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, so that when the guns taken from Mexican crime scenes turned out to be American guns, Democrats would have a reason to crack down on gun sellers in the United States.

Democrats will never stop trying to take our guns away. They see something more lethal than a salad shooter and wet themselves.

So it's curious that Democrats all started telling the same lie about guns as soon as Obama became president. In March 2009, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced to reporters on a trip to Mexico: "Since we know that the vast majority, 90 percent of that weaponry (used by Mexican drug cartels), comes from our country, we are going to try to stop it from getting there in the first place."

This is what we know:

(1) Liberals thought it would be a great argument for gun control if American guns were ending up in the hands of Mexican criminals;

(2) They wanted that to be true so badly, Democrats lied about it;

(3) After they were busted on their lie, the Obama administration began dumping thousands of guns in the hands of Mexican criminals.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-06-27.html#read_more
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That pretty much explains it.  But it is a huge mystery to the Lamestream Media Talking Heads why the evil, racist RethugliKKKans are attacking poor Eric Holder for "political reasons".

Duh? How about 'Conspiracy to Arm Felons' and 'Intentional Accessory-Before-the-Fact to Murder of a Federal Agent'(2 counts)? Not to mention 'Conspiracy to Infringe the 2nd Amendment of the the U. S. Constitution', 'Flagrant violation of the Oath of Office', 'Gross Malfeasance' and 'Perjury' as well as the 'Contempt of Congress'. 
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Excellent video, Beckwith!  A truthful synopsis of 'why' Fast & Furious was done.

A Political psy-op gone completely wrong. They are still trying to cover it up and also blame the gun dealers that they instructed and ordered to sell the guns to people they knew were taking them to the cartels.
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NRA's Wayne LaPierre with the latest on Fast and Furious



On "Lou Dobbs Tonight," NRA Executive Vice President and CEO Wayne LaPierre talks with Lou about the latest with the Fast and Furious scandal and Thursday's House vote to hold Eric Holder in contempt of Congress -- June 25, 2012


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The 5 biggest differences between Operation Fast and Furious and Operation Wide Receiver


Jason Howerton says ever since the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted in favor of holding Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt last week, the Left has been conducting a public relations push to downplay operation "Fast and Furious" and convince Americans that the failed gunrunning initiative was actually started under former President George W. Bush under the name "Wide Receiver."


The insinuation is that Fast and Furious is somehow a continuation of the Bush-era operation. The only problem with that theory is that it’s not true.


Even White House Press Secretary Jay Carney last week attempted to shift the blame from Holder and the Obama administration and onto the Bush administration.
 
"Everything has been provided to -- congressional investigators and that is really the issue, isn’t it? It is how did this operation come about. It originated in a field office during the previous administration. It was ended under this administration by this attorney general," Carney said during a presser last week.
 
But even the laziest of fact-checks would prove his assertion wrong.
 
In no way does that excuse the Bush administration from allowing a poorly-planned operation to proceed. However, the differences between the two operations are stark and should be considered.
 
(1) First and foremost, operation Wide Receiver did not result in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent or an Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer. Fast and Furious did. The guns that ultimately killed Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and ICE officer Jamie Zapata were traced back to straw purchasers related to Fast and Furious. Zapata’s family filed a wrongful death suit against the U.S. Justice Department last week.


Further, officials have confirmed that the guns from Fast and Furious have already killed hundreds of Mexican citizens and Holder has said on the record that they will likely kill many more. The total number of confirmed deaths so far from Wide Receiver: Zero.
 
(2) Second, Wide Receiver, though flawed, was more of a gun-tracing operation than a gun-walking program. Gun-tracing involves putting specific safeguards in place to track firearms, such as RFID chips perhaps with video or aerial surveillance. Gun-walking is what happened in Fast and Furious, where ATF agents sold thousands of guns without a reliable way to recover them, apparently just hoping for the best.
 
Some of the guns from Wide Receiver were implanted with RFID chips and were actively tracked electronically. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in Phoenix also implemented aerial surveillance tactics in an attempt to follow the weapons.
 
However, problems reportedly arose due to poorly implanted RFID chips which were forced into the guns, bending the antennas and decreasing their effectiveness. Cartels and straw purchasers also eventually came up with creative ways to shake tracking maneuvers and overhead surveillance, such as driving in loops for hours until surveillance planes had to refuel.
 
Those in charge of Fast and Furious took no similar steps to strengthen their chances of recovering walked guns other than recording the serial numbers before watching them disappear in the hands of Mexican drug cartels.
 
In fact, ATF agents involved in Fast and Furious have previously testified that they were ordered to stand down and not track the weapons even when interdiction was possible and instead "took notes" and let the guns walk across the Mexico border. Watch some of ATF whistleblower John Dodson’s Congressional testimony:


(3) Third, one must take into account the size and scope of the operations.
 
Speaking to members of the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this month, Holder said that "three hundred guns" were allowed to "walk" (although note the difference between "tracing" and "walking" above) in Wide Receiver. While there is no evidence that suggests otherwise, the figure is dwarfed by the approximately 2,000 firearms that walked in Fast and Furious. Roughly 1,400 guns were lost and about 700 have been recovered in Mexico and at crime scenes like the sites of Terry and Zapata’s murders.


(4) Perhaps the most convincing piece of evidence proving the two operations are separate from each other is the fact that Wide Receiver was shut down in 2007 shortly after it was clear the program was a failure. This was before Obama was even in office and nearly two years before Fast and Furious began.
 
Fast and Furious wasn’t shut down until late 2010 after the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans, a border agent and an ICE officer.
 
(5) Finally, unlike Fast and Furious, officials involved in Wide Receiver were reportedly in close contact with Mexican authorities during the operation, though how involved Mexican officials were is not entirely known.
 
What is known is that Mexican authorities were kept completely in the dark during Fast and Furious, according to the Mexican ambassador to the U.S. Mexico. He announced on June 1, 2012,  that Mexico would be launching its own probe into Fast and Furious.
 
It should be perfectly clear that both the Bush and Obama administration conducted two separate, flawed operations. One, however, was a much deadlier and larger operation.
 
If there is evidence of wrongdoing, or false testimony related to operation Wide Receiver, those responsible should be held accountable. But the argument that Fast and Furious is all about "politics" and should just be swept under the rug because the previous administration also carried out a similar program is irresponsible.
 
A contempt resolution will be considered by the full House of Representatives this week. If lawmakers decide to hold the attorney general in contempt, it will be a first in U.S. history for a sitting attorney general.


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Issa's correct: Tougher gun laws was Fast And Furious goal


Investor's Business Daily says The head of the House oversight panel suggests the real reason for the administration's invoking executive privilege in the Fast and Furious case is to hide proof that the operation was part of a push for gun control.
 
Defenders of Barack Obama's use of executive privilege to provide cover for Attorney General Eric Holder in the gun-running fiasco that resulted in the deaths of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jaime Zapata may dismiss it as just another conspiracy theory. But the suggestion by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., that the deadly operation was conceived to advance the administration's gun-control agenda is quite plausible.
 
"Here's the real answer as to gun control," Issa said on ABC's "This Week": "We have email from people involved in this that are talking about using what they're finding here to support the -- basically assault weapons -- ban or greater reporting."
 
Issa was asked about the possible connection after comments he made at an NRA convention. "Could it be," he said on NRA News' "Cam & Company" program, "that what they really were thinking of was in fact to use this walking of guns in order to promote an assault weapons ban? Many think so. And they haven't come up with an explanation that would cause any of us not to agree."
 
Perhaps the answer is in the documents that Holder and Obama are risking much to hide. As we observed recently, the way Fast and Furious, the government's gun-running operation, was executed made no sense unless its intended purpose was to facilitate violence with U.S. weapons in the interests of pursuing the administration's gun-control agenda.
 
As Issa noted on "This Week," the Department of Justice announced on April 25, 2011, "right in the middle of the scandal," that it was requiring some 8,500 gun stores in Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico to report individual purchases of multiple rifles of greater than .22 caliber by law-abiding American citizens to the ATF because such guns are "frequently recovered at violent crime scenes near the Southwest border."
 
Like the ATF-supplied guns found next to the body of Brian Terry?
 
Coincidence? We think not. On July 14, 2010, roughly five months before Agent Terry's murder, ATF Field Ops Assistant Director Mark Chait emailed Bill Newell, ATF's Phoenix special agent in charge of Fast and Furious. "Bill," the email read, "can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time? We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun sales. Thanks."


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